Ignoring the supermajority

by: Paul Rosenberg

Wed Nov 17, 2010 at 12:00


At Campaign for America's Future (CAF), Richard (RJ) Eskow took the CBS poll results about American's issue priorities that I wrote about yesterday and put them into graphic form:

This chart only includes economic issues (health care registers at 14%--more than twice the level of taxes and the deficit combined). As Eskow says:

Only 6% of Americans think Congress should concentrate on reducing the deficit or changing the tax code, according to the latest CBS News poll. Nearly ten times as many people, 56%, want it to focus on creating jobs and fixing the economy. Guess which set of policies is the center of attention in Washington right now?

This is why the Democrats lost the mid-terms.  As HousesofProgress notes in Quick Hits, "POLL: Election was not mandate for GOP (70% - 17%)":

Americans overwhelmingly say that the midterm election results that gave Republicans control of the House represented a rejection of the Democrats and not a mandate for the GOP, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll conducted Nov. 11-14. (Story; Poll data). Seventy percent of those surveyed said the results were a rejection of Democratic rule in the House while 17 percent called it a mandate for Republicans. Eight percent answered "neither" and 5 percent had no opinion.

The Democrats lost because they didn't address the people's number one concern.  How hard is that to understand?  Of course, they did address it sporadically and inadequately--which only makes matters worse, actually.  It shows that Democrats know the problem exists, they just don't care enough to actually take it seriously.  For all the GOP lies about Democrats "not sharing your values", this truth is far more devastating.

Also at CAF, Dave Johnson, who guests here occassionally picked up on the poll and Eskow's post, ("The DC/Rest-Of-Us Divide And Its Consequences"):

Only 6% of the public is concerned about the deficit. The only thing Washington elites are concerned about is the deficit. The rest of us live on the other side of the planet from the people in DC who make the policies. Maybe the other side of the solar system.

You can see how this divide affects policy. There is a "deficit commission" but no jobs commission. There are millions of people needing jobs and millions of jobs that need doing, but Washington won't "spend," even on badly-needed infrastructure investment. People over 50 (laid off because they were paid more or their health care was expensive) can't find jobs but the DC elite discuss raising the retirement age to 70. The deficit commission proposes cutting back the already-meager "safety net" while cutting tax rates for the really rich even more.

And while all of this goes on the rest of the people in the country are worried about jobs, foreclosures, bills, jobs, wages, jobs, and jobs - the things that matter to regular people. And they are feeling the consequences of the DC/rest-of-us divide.

In 2008, we expected the Democrats to recognize the obvious, side with the vast majority of the American people, and thereby cement long-term majority support.  It was no-brainer.  Unfortunately, the Democrats showed us they have no brains.

There is, of course, an explanation for this: the elite dominance of American politics, as described and explained, for example, by Thomas Ferguson's investment theory of political parties.  In fact, the complete ignoring of the people's overwhelming #1 priority is about the most striking bit of evidence one could ask for proving such elite dominance.  The question is, however, why that elite dominance has turned so short-sighted and self-destructive.

Paul Rosenberg :: Ignoring the supermajority

One answer, of course, is that elites have always been short-sighted and self-destructive this way, it's just that they weren't powerful enough to bring the country down... until now.  The concentration of wealth--and thereby power--they now enjoy is unprecedented... at least since 1929, the last time that their short-sightedness and self-destructiveness brought the country to ruin. So long as looking after their own interests coincides reasonably well with at least preserving the economic stability of the nation, it does not practically matter how short-sighted they actually are.

However, this explanation is almost certainly too crude.  The loss of business prestige following the Great Depression, the loss of concentrated wealth, the growth of regulatory structures, and changes in public attitudes and expectations all may be pointed to as factors altering the form and constraints of elite thinking, reflected in such practical terms as the relatively "low" ratios of CEO salaries to entry-level salaties that were the norm in the 1960s.  Various changes following then subsequently reversed the moderating effects that had constrained elite power, including, most importantly, those that tended to reinforce more long-term and institution-regarding thinking. Hyman Minsky was particularly prescient about this process and its consequences as applied to the economic realm, which I discussed in my September 2009 diay, "The One Percent Economy--Part Two: The Why", which focused on a paper he co-authored, "Economic Insecurity and the Institutional Prerequisites for Successful Capitalism".  The paper discusses a progression of capitalist forms:

The financial structure of the American economy has undergone significant evolution over the history of the republic. From its initial stage of "commercial" capitalism, during which external finance was used mainly for trade, this structure has evolved into its present stage of "money-manager" capitalism, where financial markets and arrangements are dominated by managers of funds.

Two financial stages, "industrial"  capitalism and "paternalistic" capitalism, were dominant between the eras of commercial and money-manager capitalism

It is the evolution of this last form, driven increasingly by the imperatives of meeting quarterly financial targets, that has played a central role in reducing the time-horizon of executive thinking, which in turn spreads throuhout the system. Indeed, this form of capitalism is decidedly more short-term in its fundamental logic than any that preceeded it. And the great irony is that it was created in large part because of the mixed-economy model of the American welfare state, which involves substantial government subsidies for pensions, which thereby accumulated large sums of money needing managing, which in turn gave rise to the inceasingly important role of money-managers.

I've also repeatedly called attention to the analysis of Augustus Cochrane III in Democracy Heading South: National Politics in the Shadow of Dixie, which provides a broader view of the political system as a whole, arguing that America circa 2000 had come to functionally resemble the South circa 1950 as described by VO Key in Southern Politics, although with different structures fulfilling similar functions (as with gills functioning like lungs, for example).

Most significantly, Cochrane argued that just as the one-party system of the South functioned effectively as a no-party system, dominated by various forms of informal alliances all within the formless realm of the Democratic Party, national politics had similarly seen an erosion of party structures and the emergence of more entreprenurial political actors--candidates as well as campaign managers, consultants and the like.  Just as the 1950s South was politically ill-equipped to deal with the challenges of successful industrialization with such an opportunistic political system, so, too, America circa 2000 was politically ill-equipped to deal with the challenges of successful post-industrialization (as witness, for example, the series of bubble economies from the Reagan Era onward).

One function of party systems is to organize public action on a vast scale--for the primary benefit of those who fund it--in a manner that is responsive to public opinion so that it preserves social order.  Put simply: elections are mechanisms to prevent revolutions.

While ordinary people may well perceive parties today as powerful, out-of-touch entities, Cochrane's perspective shows something quite different: their problem is that they are actually too weak to properly respond to public opinion in dealing with serious problems.  They can sell the sizzle, but they can't deliver the steak.

This seems to be a particularly apt description of what's going on in Versailles right now.  What politician worth his salt would not want to appeal to the overwhelming public desire to fix the economy now, given the CBS poll results cited above?  But the GOP's conservative ideology is fundamentally incapable of doing anything about it, while the Democratic Party is simply too disorganized and divided--not to mention scared of its own shadow.  This are not strong parties in any meaningful sense, they are incredibly weak ones.  They are, however, the strongest political entities around (which is why, for example, the Tea Party was aimed at taking over the GOP).  And that is the central political problem we confront today.

So long as this remains true, the phenomena of ignoring our most pressing problems, and those most popular with the public will continue to plague us. This is nothing more than a recipe for the gradual (or not so gradual) destruction of democracy itself.

One more thing: Obama's highly successful 2008 campaign, and total bust in delivering what people wanted, needed, and expected is utterly typical of how this system works when pressure mounts and needs to be contained.  This is how Southern politics as entertainment/spectacle worked throughout the segregation era described by Key, and it strongly confirms Cochrane's thesis that the US today is much like the South circa 1950. This is not to excuse or to criticize Obama.  It is merely to deflate the false impression that he is entirely sui generis. To the contrary, he is very much a "type", albeit on a very big scale, and on the cutting edge of campaign technology.


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Design problems . . . (4.00 / 1)
Years ago, Daniel Lazare wrote a book called The Frozen Republic in which he talked about the breakdown of American politics and political systems.  He predicted - using one of the arguments in the Federalist papers - that some Congress could simply announce Constitutional changes had been made because without them the system would break down.  The Framers actually offered that defense for writing the constitution - basically saying "Yeah we weren't supposed to draft a new Constitution but we had no choice so we did; yeah we overstepped our authority but it was unavoidable."  Lazare's solution could probably never happen but it is interesting to ponder.

Part of the problem is an inherently undemocratic, unrepresentative system (embodied in the Senate and Electoral College).  How can a government in which a portion of it is deliberately designed to be unrepresentative actually respond to popular will?  The British solution has been to reduce the power of the House of Lords to almost nothing.  

Robert Dahl describes the problem in terms of majoritarian versus consensus models of democracy - and the US has a strange hybrid that incorporates the faults of both without the virtues - it fails to move because it simply has no clear way forward.

So we have a problem:  without strong parties to organize movement the government is too insulated by its own design to respond to changing needs of the population.

So what do we do?


"Design Flaw" All Right! (4.00 / 1)
One could say that the real design flaw was the failure to heed the Paine/Jefferson's argument that the earth belongs to the living (in trust for the future), and therefore--as Jefferson argued--a new Constitution was needed every 20 years.  At the time it was written, the US Constitution was a great leap forward over everything else out there.  But it did have flaws from the very beginning that everyone was aware of, as well as ones that only became apparent over time.

In fact, the Founders had no inkling at all of the positive role of parties--"strong parties to organize movement" as you put it--and most regarded it as a very bad thing when the party system emerged quite unexpectedly.

So, yes, I'm pretty much in total agreement with you.

As for Lazare, America's Undeclared War: What's Killing Our Cities and How We Can Stop It is none too shabby, either.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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La plus ca change.... (4.00 / 2)
This description of the Founder's deliberations seriously understates the nature of their dilemma. With thirteen sovereign states -- and they were sovereign by any measure in those days -- there was no way that any proposed federal government could wholly usurp their sovereignty and still hope to get them to ratify a federal constitution. While Hamilton railed against their intransigence, and Madison did his best to apologize for the perceived threat of such novelties as direct taxation by the Union, there's little doubt that anything could have been passed and ratified in 1787-1788 which might have fulfilled your definition of democracy.

Moreover, when you consider that 220 some-odd years later, state sovereignty advocates, sincere or not, are still standing in the way of democracy as you define it, I think that we should conclude not just that there are design problems in the Constitution, but that the very forces which impinged on its designers are still around, and might not be any more satisfactorily dealt with today than they were then. Someday, perhaps, but not now....


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Which Is Why (4.00 / 1)
Jefferson's argument was anything but a sure-fire thing.  But at least it gave us a fighting chance.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Jefferson's argument and ours (4.00 / 2)
At very least, we have to make the argument. We should openly ask people what they think is meant by the greatest good for the greatest number, question whether or not Warren Buffet's or Larry Summers' stake in the country is really so much greater than the local shopkeeper's that it justifies their having greater influence over what cable companies get to charge us, or who should benefit from our tax policies.

While we're at it, we might also ask people exactly what they mean when they praise local control. Is it something intended to preserve the South's peculiar institution, to make sure that expatriates from the Golden State don't californicate Oregon or Arizona? Is it's only purpose to make sure that we don't teach evolution in the schools, or guarantee that a Wyoming senator who represents fewer voters than the mayor of Los Angeles has the same vote in the country's deliberations as a senator from New York?

A lot of our history has found a graveyard in the attitudes of our people. If we want to change their opinions, we could do worse than attempt to exhume some of it and show it to them.


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Local Control (4.00 / 3)
My take on "local control" is that it is rhetoric used by local interests to grab community assets for their benefit. And that "local control" is used to placate enough of the community that actually follows political issues. It's a similar dynamic to nationalism which makes enough people happy (Go USA!) that they let elites pursue their own interests, often at the expense of minority groups in their communities, as well as other countries.

I hear "local control" and think of timber interests, coal and gas interests, and the like. I don't think, in an historical sense, of voters banding together to solve problems in ways that benefit the majority.

In terms of democracy, fundamentally the same problem set always exists. As does the imperative to mobilize enough voters to make change happen. Some periods of history are more amenable to change than other periods. But it should be no surprise the issues the Founding Fathers (and Mothers) faced still exist in some potent form.

We even have a mild form of the slavery issue with respect to immigration: if immigrants could unionize, their wages would go up and they'd be less exploited and probably more integrated into society. Yet they work hard, as much as any average American, contribute to society, yet cannot vote and are easily subjected to exploitation.


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I think you are making the case (4.00 / 1)
But the GOP's conservative ideology is fundamentally incapable of doing anything about it, while the Democratic Party is simply too disorganized and divided--not to mention scared of its own shadow.  This are not strong parties in any meaningful sense, they are incredibly weak ones....(which is why, for example, the Tea Party was aimed at taking over the GOP)

While it upsets many everytime I mention it, I think you have illustrated the very reason that a more successful liberal, pro-people (as opposed to corporate/elitist interests) alliance should and probably could be formed at this time.  As you point out, the GOP is already doing this.  To do this in the short term requires us to move on from the past and the candidates of the past, at least those that seem to be more motivated to sustain the status quo.  

While the GOP is moving on, it is notable that they are being funded by the same people who are funding the present elitist leadership of both parties.   The principle hurdle the Democrats would face in creating a party with a true liberal focus would be the funding.  I think the Democrats won in 2008 for two reasons. First that the people became tired of GOP leadership for the reasons you point out.  Secondly, the elitist money brokers, sensing a rebellion of the electorate, put a lot of money into the Democrats that they felt would cause the least damage.

It seems to me that in order to finance a viable liberal leadership we need to cultivate those who would work for the people so we have possible candidates the next time the 2008 scenario comes around (I really expect that won't be too long) who might actually do what they say.

Of course that means giving some real tough love to Obama and others within the present leadership, which means were going to have rampant internal debate.  I think the issues with Obama point out that Democrats, not just their leaders, need to learn how to get past the talking stage and do something.  Perhaps the next time we need to find someone who has actually accomplished something in the past.

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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Look (4.00 / 3)
The one thing I've tried to argue repeatedly over the years, to be repeatedly mis-understood, is that party politics is not the engine of change.  Parties are driven by forces outside them.  Elite interest groups are the primary drivers, but social movements drive them as well.  As a result, it's profoundly mistaken to try to use parties to make social change in isolation from the context that shapes them.

While it's certainly good to be thinking about the things you discuss, it's even better to asking "How can we create new kinds of structures, new ways of organizing power from below, new ways of expressing what's wrong and proposing solutions that will not only solve problems, but create new long-term alliances?"

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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e.g.? (0.00 / 0)
create new kinds of structures, new ways of organizing power from below

in order to spare your time url's are fine if you have them.  

"Oh. My. God. .... We're doomed." -- Paul Krugman
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I've Written About Examples Before (0.00 / 0)
350.org on climate change, for example.  The Apollo Alliance. Everyone who's stopped giving to the party, and now gives only directly to candidates or through progressive intermediaries.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Which theory? (4.00 / 1)
Democrats know the problem exists, they just don't care enough to actually take it seriously...the Democrats showed us they have no brains.


I'm not sure how to interpret the framing here, Paul. To me, it sounds like you're saying the Democrats are bad at gauging voter preferences, more or less a traditional political science view.

But, in the context of the investment theory of political parties, neither party cares about the priorities of the people-they're concerned about blocs of investors. Taking the number one concern of the people "seriously" is not what the parties are supposed to do.

Maybe millions of people out of work is something, under the investment theory, that the parties would not address, at least aggressively. Is higher unemployment something that the elites would want? Just at a common sense level, it seems like job insecurity for most people is a good thing for the elites.

Getting votes per se might not even be the point  under some investment theory of political parties-the point might be to shape and narrow the agenda, and, at a deeper level, maintain a system (like the present two-party system) where the major investors control the parties.

I'm trying make some sense of the two competing theories and your view of them here.


Good Question (4.00 / 2)
As I wasn't as clear about that as I should have been.

Basically, I'm saying that folks acting "rationally" on the micro/short-term-level can be utter fools at the macro/long-term-level.  FDR saved the capitalist class from itself, for all hatred it gained him.  And that would be the non-brain-dead thing for Democrats to do this time out, too.

But the Democrats haven't spent the past 30 years cultivating brains.  In fact, they've spent the past 30 years pretty much despising them (though not nearly as much as the Reps have).  So now the piper is being paid.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Haha, it amazes some of you can't understand basic logic at the age of 50+. This isn't even about facts. The facts are right, but the logical conclusion you derive from the facts are wrong. You cannot conclude that only 6% care about the deficit when the question is "Which one issue should congress focus on first". This isn't a question of politics or personal tastes, this is just fundamental logic 101.

Except, Of Course (4.00 / 3)
If you put everyone back to work, that would immediately slash the deficit dramatically, while deficit chickenhawks are fiercely opposed to measures that would get the economy going again right away.

So, you see, the two options actually are mutually exclusive.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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and as long as "the supermajority'" - (0.00 / 0)
is ignoring the supermajority and NOT knocking at Obamas -(and the Congress door) - like the Teaparty - not much will change. And do you know if you interview unemployed people in the US a lot of them think it's their own fault - because they haven't tried hard - and don't worry they will make it -(just don't start to get negative or you are completely 'dead') - And as long as the 'supermajority' still feels like 'winners' and there are only 20 percent 'losers' the supermajority will not change their mind - You probably would need a supermajority of 70 or 80 percent 'losers' in the US before IT comes to their senses!

Interesting Article at the American Propsect (4.00 / 2)
http://prospect.org/cs/article...

There's an interesting article at the American Prospect talking about some of these issues - from the 1930s.  In 1938, FDR set about to create an ideological realignment in American politics, to create functional responsible parties, one liberal, one conservative.  He failed.

As Susan Dunn emphasizes in Roosevelt's Purge, her lively narrative of that vexed campaign, FDR was motivated not merely by personal pique and short-term legislative goals but by a vision of a refashioned party system. He explained in that extraordinary fireside chat that primaries should facilitate a "healthy choice" between the two parties in November, for "an election cannot give the country a firm sense of direction if it has two or more national parties which merely have different names but are as alike in their principles and aims as peas in the same pod." According to Dunn, Roosevelt "believed that the nation should have two effective and responsible parties, one liberal and the other conservative." Since the president attempted to accomplish in one frenzied summer what six decades of subsequent developments only haltingly produced, it's perhaps no surprise that the effort failed. But what an exciting failure!

Shortly before his death, FDR was dreaming of creating a truly liberal political party in the US.  

In a whirlwind final chapter, she traces the evolution of American parties "From the Purge to Realignment," showing how the politics of race and Southern economic development propelled a national electoral reconfiguration and produced by century's end the very ideologically sorted parties that Roosevelt had envisioned. FDR, Dunn insists, would be pleased with this development.

Yet virtually no one is happy with the current state of American politics -- certainly not liberals who have watched Obama's legislative agenda stall before uniform Republican opposition and key Democratic defections. In a rather jarring analytical turn at the end of her book, Dunn acknowledges that discontent and blames it on the mismatch between the new American party system and old American political institutions -- a "horse-and-buggy political system" that fragments authority and enables minority obstruction. Her only suggested remedy, short of turning American government into a parliamentary system through constitutional reform, is to double down on party discipline and concerted presidential partisanship.

FDR presided in an era of strong parties, probably too strong.  The cliche of the smoke filled room was a lived reality of the time.  But the parties were non-ideological.  We live in an era of weak parties but parties that are far more ideological than anything FDR dealt with.


and this I don't understand at all - (0.00 / 0)
America already has a 'liberal party' - It's part of the Dem-coalition -(if you let me call it like that) - And I can't be the only person who knows that the Dems are actually four or five different Parties - and the Republicans are at least two - So what are you talking about - because of this illusion there is a two Party system in the US?  

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Weak coalition (4.00 / 1)
You're correct that what we have in the US are two distinct political parties that are themselves coalition parties.  The two party's labels confuse rather than clarify things.  In the 60s and 70s, for instance, there were some liberal republicans to the left of some conservative dems and vice versa, of course, conservative dems to the right of liberal republicans.  The two party system camouflages rather than illuminates political differences.  

In a parliamentary, consensus style democracy we'd have easily five mainstream parties in the US and a host of smaller ones; we'd also know what kind of coalition was governing.  The last two years we've seen what amounts to a weak coalition government.  If you think about it in those terms, the outcomes make sense.  But, our two party system disguises those realities and serve to make governing more difficult.  


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Lasted till Chaffee (0.00 / 0)
Lincoln Chaffee and Jim Jeffords were to the left of Ben Nelson not to mention Gene Taylor.  Remnants of this lasted until the 2000s.  It was the Republicans, in particular the Club for Growth, that ended this overlap.  Significantly, Dick Cheney personally pushed Jeffords out of the Republican party by going after dairy subsidies aimed at Vermont farmers.  For some reason, Cheney was surprised at the result.

Today, Lisa Murkowski, with a crucial vote score of 5%, loses a GOP primary as a "liberal" to wackadoo Joe Miller and is elected by the general populace as a write-in.  Real radical at 5%.

The religious right is used but it is the corporate and ultra-rich who rule the Republican Party and own the Supreme Court.


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So, I'd be interested in hearing you (0.00 / 0)
explain your understanding of what the four or five Democratic parties are and what the two Republican ones are.  

Educate, Agitate, Organize, Mobilize, Act!


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