Core Dilemmas of Organizing: Plusses and Minuses of Church-Based Social Action Groups

by: educationaction

Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 21:48


(Another in this important series. - promoted by Paul Rosenberg)

It may surprise many readers that most of the largest progressive community organizing groups in America are coalitions of churches.  

In this post, I discuss why progressive community organizing in this country has ended up working so much through churches.  I also start to examine a few benefits and problems with this approach. In later posts will discuss other issues related to the continuing intersection between organizing and religion in America.

These seem like key issues to discuss at this anniversary of Reverend MLK's death and amidst all the reminiscence of the civil rights movement, which was so fundamentally based in churches.

See the full "Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing" series here.

educationaction :: Core Dilemmas of Organizing: Plusses and Minuses of Church-Based Social Action Groups
Those new to these posts may want to read Part I and Part II of "What is Organizing?"  Since there seems to be interest, I'm planning on continuing this series--there is lots more to talk about--although I'll try to limit myself to one a week, given my other commitments.

Why churches?
Across the nation, especially in the impoverished areas of our central cities, old forms of "community" have broken down. The ethnic and neighborhood organizations of the early part of the 20th Century have largely disintegrated as a result of concentrated poverty, the invasion of the justice system, generalized fear, and more. The organizations that remain mostly provide services, usually directed by members of the upper-middle-class with few real connections to the inner city.

While a range of scholars have shown that Putnam's well-known arguments that American no longer belong to community organizations in Bowling Alone were overblown, the vibrant forms of "community" that critics often point to, like 12-step groups and volunteer organizations, are quite different from earlier ones. Perhaps most importantly, they tend not to develop long-term bonds of mutual support and trust or a durable sense of belonging.

The one major exception is churches. Churches provide an already existing group of people held together by a set of common beliefs and a shared commitment to each other and to a transcendent set of values.

Today, if you don't use churches to organize, you are often forced to organize people one by one. But, as organizers for ACORN, the only national group that tries to do this, will tell you, this approach is incredibly time intensive. It requires you to knock on thousands of doors. In communities without much "community" you have to create a sense of "us" that does not exist before you arrive. And you have to constantly work to maintain this sense of shared responsibility. A fallow period without much action can easily result in the dispersal of those you have worked so hard to bring together.

Churches exist before they engage in social action, and they keep existing even when there is no social action going on. Churches have recognized leaders already, and there are people there who aren't leaders but who have the potential to be and who are recognized already as "members." They represent an ongoing pool of people who can be trained and mobilized.

Right-wing religious organizations often seem to march in lockstep in response to a shared set of religious dogmas. In contrast, because progressive groups are usually made up of a diverse group of Christian (and frequently non-Christian) denominations, there is no place for religious dogma. Instead, these organizations argue that throughout our different traditions run a common set of social values.

The aim in progressive groups is not to push religion.  The aim is to push social change in response to religious commitments. In fact, while every meeting in a congregation-based community organizing group generally begins and ends with a prayer, each prayer usually comes from a different perspective. For example, in the congregational group I work with that I'll call CHANGE, a recent organization-wide public meeting began with a prayer by a Lutheran minister and ended with a reading (partly in Hebrew) from the Torah by a rabbi. (Some of these congregation-based organizations also include non-religious groups like unions, although CHANGE does not.)

Race and Class Segregation in Churches
Churches in America are extremely segregated by race and class. Church segregation is less a result of geographical boundaries than of the character of individual churches, however. For our purposes, it is helpful to focus on two groups of churches: mostly middle-class, mid-sized mainline congregations and (especially among African Americans) usually smaller, mostly working-class Pentecostal/Holiness or "charismatic" (often storefront) churches.  Much more could be said about "mega-churches," often charismatic churches that attract much more well-to-do clientele, but that's for some other time.

In general, progressive congregational organizing groups are made up almost entirely of "mainline" churches.

Why?

First, from a religious standpoint mainline churches are more likely to see broad, mundane social concerns as a part of their responsibility as (mostly) Christian people. In America, it is in these churches that different forms of a "liberation theology" or "social gospel" focused on issues like educational reform makes the most coherent sense. (In fact, a study showed that the class and education level of the pastor and of the congregation is directly related to the likelihood that a congregation will participate in traditional social justice activities.)

In the Pentecostal/Holiness tradition, the focus seems to be more on engaging directly with the holy spirit in one's life. These churches are "in the world but not of it." It is important to emphasize, as McRoberts and Sanders do, that the sanctified tradition is in many ways just as interested in social justice and in the creation of an egalitarian society as are mainline churches. But they seem more likely to focus on engaging individuals in religious transformation and on direct services more directly related to religious actualization as opposed to concrete action for systematic social change. It is also usually the case that these churches have fewer resources to expend on non-church functions.  (As with everything in society, these are tendencies, not absolute rules.)

Second, the dominance of a middle-class discourse is, to some extent, a self-perpetuating phenomenon. People who "belong" in the congregational organizing group I work with, for example, speak a certain way and, despite important differences, often worship in a particular way. While progressive whites may sometimes be uncomfortable with more expressive mainline African American and other traditions, these are not as alien as the practices of sanctified churches. Even less privileged members of participating mainline congregations may feel uncomfortable in this setting.  Working-class members of charismatic churches may show up, but they don't usually return. I'll talk about this more, later.

As you can see, these differences are much more complex than simple distinctions between "conservative" and "liberal" can capture.

The class segregation of congregational organizing groups is often difficult for outsiders to detect. In part this is because churches are increasingly unlikely to draw from identifiable geographic areas. Many black inner-city churches, for example, have mostly middle-class congregations that live nowhere near the actual church, just as there are white congregations (think of Catholics tied to historic churches) who worship in areas where the racial and class composition has shifted. Thus, the location of a church often says little or nothing about especially the class make-up of congregants.

Even participants can seem unaware of the extent to which these organizations sometimes represent a fairly narrow segment of the population. At an Education Committee meeting of CHANGE earlier this year, for example, an African American reverend suggested that we survey members of our congregations to get a sense of the kind of challenges parents face in the public schools. I had to tell him that we'd actually tried this a few years ago (with the same intention), and had discovered that almost none of the congregation members surveyed had children attending the most struggling schools in the city. Apparently, most members have enough cultural and social capital to negotiate the intricacies of the schooling bureaucracy to get their kids in better schools.

In my limited experience, then, congregational groups represent a range of segments of the middle-class, including relatively few of those who are actually suffering the most from the effects of poverty and geographical segregation. I know this is less true in other areas--in poor catholic parishes in Texas, for example (see Warren).   Interestingly, these class issues are rarely noted, in my experience, in writings about congregational organizing.

Of course, this raises important questions about how much even congregational organizing groups based mostly in the inner city actually "represent" these communities.

There is more to be said about the problematic ways class and race intersect in congregation-based community organizing. In a later post I will examine how class issues can intersect with issues of race to produce destructive patterns of racial exclusion in congregational groups.  I'd appreciate any corrections-especially on my limited knowledge of religious sociology.

UPDATE: I'll talk more about class, later.  But I want to add, here, that being middle class in an inner-city African American church can (but doesn't always) mean something different than it means in more privileged white churches.  So when "middle-class" whites and "middle-class" blacks get together, there may already be inequality across class in addition to race.  See Mary Patillo's important work on the black middle class in the inner-city if you really want to understand this growing tension, especially as oppression in America makes it increasingly difficult for oppressed people of color to transfer their class status to their children.  This complicates the issue I'm talking about here even more.


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this is why i resent the anger towards religion that some progressives have (0.00 / 0)
To be clear, I think atheists should have the right to believe what they believe, I think we should have strong separation of church and state.

But I can't believe that some progressives truly believe that religion or belief in God is a problem in of itself. Yes, churches are a source of right-wing fundamentalism. But it's also a major source of the civil rights movement. It's at the foundation of human rights. As progressives, we need to build bridges between people of all faiths (and no faith) who share common goals of social justice. We should embrace churches that strive towards progressive ideals as much as we reject churches that are built on conservative principles.

Our coalition needs Martin Luther King a hell of a lot more than we need Ayn Rand. Progressives need to be aware of that.


I think you've been reading too much Amy Sullivan (0.00 / 0)
"Progressives" believe all sorts of wacky things, because people of any broadly labeled group believe all sorts of wacky things. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find any actual progressive organizing centered around somehow excluding Liberal churches from the movement. You can always say more should be done to "build bridges" between this or that group, but I just don't see anyone on our side who doesn't think that churches have a role to play.

It's just an annoying straw-man pushed by the "centrists" who want Democrats to spend their time pandering to bigots on the Christian Right. But I probably just missed all the posts on the liberal blogs rejecting Martin Luther King Jr. in favor of Ayn Rand on the, right?

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


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I wish it were a straw person (4.00 / 1)
and part of the point of this post was to show that progressive social action does in fact often draw from religion.  

But. . . in a recent organizing weekend I suggested having a pastor give an opening invocation or something, and there was strong resistance.  I suggested other options, but nothing came of it.  White well-educated progressives often do feel uncomfortable with religion.  Different forms of this conference have been going on for a while, and when I went a few years ago I noticed two things.  First, there was essentially no mention of religion at the entire conference, and, second, that there were few people of color at the conference.

I have seen this happen on different occasions.  

The problem is that if we want to build coalitions across class, then we need to include religious leaders at organizing meetings.  

Poor people often have religion--poor people of all kinds of different backgrounds.  Oppressed people, of all kinds of backgrounds often have religion.

Here I noted that mainstream religious organizing groups have a class problem. Actually I should go back and edit a bit, because what "counts" as middle class for some groups looks more like lower-middle or even working-class for other groups.

So I would agree that this is a problem.  The point is not that progressives don't have religion, but that some progressives, a particular group, can be resistant to religion.

I can understand the political desire to not talk about this, because it plays into right wing tropes about progressives.  But it's also important to face reality.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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What Are You Talking About??? (4.00 / 1)
Our coalition needs Martin Luther King a hell of a lot more than we need Ayn Rand. Progressives need to be aware of that.

I have never heard any progressive that I can recall praise Ayn Rand, or advance her POV.

This isn't just a straw man.  This is a straw man without any straw.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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if I'm overstating the problem... (0.00 / 0)
it's only because progressive atheists have overstated their problem. every once in a while, someone on dailykos will show up and talk about how belief in god is pretty stupid and people need to move passed this. there's this naive belief that this will somehow resolve most of the problems we've been dealing with. it won't. you may get rid of Falwell, but not Rand. Moreover, you get rid of MLK.

That's the point I'm trying to make.


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Yes, this sometimes happen (4.00 / 1)
and yes, Paul is correct.You are just playing into right wing tropes when you exaggerate.  This is an area that we need to be very careful about.  

People who are interested in this should check out Talk to Action and The Revealer.  

Some have critiqued Jim Wallis and Obama, I think correctly, for exaggerating the "religion problem" in the progressive movement.  

I am not the right person to write a sophisticated post about this specific tension, however.  We all need to acknowledge the limits of our knowledge, and compared to the TTA and Revealer folks, I am really just putting my toe in the water.  

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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Let's Get Real, Shall We??? (0.00 / 0)
You're talking about a scattering of not-very-high-profile bloggers.  And many of them are responding to a highly distorted public sphere, for which religious modertates bear a good deal of responsibility.

It's only natural, given the grotesque forms that politicized religion has taken over the past 30 years that there should be some extreme over-reaction against it.  What's remarkable, actually, is not how much over-reaction there is, but how little.

I mean, face it.  There simply is no major atheist political organization on the national scene.  Not one.  Pretty damn hard to be a dominant force with no organization, don't you think?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I would agree that the religion issue (4.00 / 2)
is much more subtle.  But, again, the problem I've encountered is not that progressives oppose religion, per se, but that, in part as Paul notes because of what the right wing has done, some are uncomfortable with it being part of progressive public spaces for social action.  And that's something we need to figure our way around.  We need to build bridges across the different groups in the movement, and part of that is finding ways to integrate the religious commitments that activate a large proportion of the left while also acknowledging the real concerns of those who have watched (or directly experienced) right wing efforts to foster the kind of religion that tries to dominate people through authoritarian practices.  

In my limited experience, if we don't find ways to integrate religion more, we will find it difficult to create more multi-racial, multi-class settings.  And this is something that the more privileged members of the "movement" need to take upon themselves, despite the internal tensions that it may reveal. I should have pressed the issue harder myself around the recent conference.  

Interestingly, after hearing one woman (who happened to be African American) get up and talk about the importance of congregational organizing, one of the (white) people who was resistant leaned over and said to me "maybe we should have asked a pastor to participate."

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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they're certainly not dominant (0.00 / 0)
but I'd still appreciate it if a small and engaged group of activists recognized the value of building a big tent. There's really nothing wrong with believing in god, so long as you don't believe that god blesses people down racial or religious lines, or that god wants us to control each other's thoughts and actions...

This isn't a strawman argument. There are honestly progressives who would honestly believe most of these problems would go away without religion. I guarantee you, there would still be plenty of conservatives without religion. And a huge loss of progressives.

That's my only point. That religious people are valuable to progressive organization.


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Thoughts (4.00 / 1)
I've been reading Obama's Dreams from My Father carefully with an eye to writing something about how his description of organizing jibes with and contrasts with what I've seen.

He reports that his white mentor in an Alinksy-influenced project said this:

"Most of our work is with churches," he said. "If poor and working-class people want to build real power, they have to have some institutional base. With the unions in the shape they are in, the churches are the only game in town...."
I think that is very close to what you have written.

I think some of the resistance to including religion in progressive projects, in addition to reaction against the narrowness and bigotry of some Christians, comes from an unwillingness to admit that organizing people as workers is just not happening in most areas. The unions are barely maintaining membership and are still losing ground in the private sector. That hurts if you think people ought to be able to combine on the basis of their class interests (and I do.) Obama's mentor understood that this option just isn't real where an economy is so bifurcated into haves and have nots as ours is in poor cities.

The organizations that can be built from congregations have their own problems -- you point out class obstacles. Obama describes many of the ones that derive from trying to empower new grassroots leaders in an environment with its own entrenched leaders (pastors, priests, and politicians.)

Can it happen here?


Obama worked with a Gamaliel (0.00 / 0)
organization, which is the same umbrella group that supports most congregational groups in Wisconsin.  

I am a little uncomfortable with the "either/or" argument around unions.  There is a lot of creative work going on in worker centers, for example, that are more integrated with the community.  The labor movement seems to have a lot of real problems, especially in my distant understanding, with substantive democracy.  But labor is critical.  If progressives are going to succeed, we desperately need labor.

But, yes, abstract ideas about how our class interests are the same simply don't work on the ground amidst the complex realities of the intersecting oppressions that people really experience day to day.  Churches work well because they bring people in from organizations instead of as individuals.  I'll talk more about that later.  

Again, part of what I am saying is that Obama is, intentionally or not, exaggerating the extent to which Gamaliel organizations actually work with the poorest and most oppressed people in inner cities. Of course, he might have found a way around this problem in his specific context.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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Hadn't known that (0.00 / 0)
I had some experience with Gamaliel organizations in the 1990s -- they seemed better at reaching further into the poorer classes than a lot of community organizing. On the other hand, the ones I saw weren't very programaticly ambitious. I hadn't known Obama's outfit was Gamaliel as the ones from that lineage we saw didn't seem to be based among Catholic parishes.

In the late 90s, I think the worker centers were some of the most interesting work around.

All strains of organizing that I have known have had trouble with substantive democracy. Democracy is hard without tough institutional supports, as our country is demonstrating.

Can it happen here?


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Another Useful Post (4.00 / 1)
Before I offer my specific response, I just want to note that I find this series to be very much of use... I forwarded the first to to my brand new organizing fellow, and she found them (I think) useful as well. please keep them coming.

The issues around geographic representation as they relate to church and faith-based organizing are aptly noted here.  The story about the school issues is not an uncommon one - members may well want to do something about the problem, but none of them are personally feeling the direct repercussions of it.  That makes for a different perspective, and in my experience leads some times to the "not organizing" activities cited earlier in the series, among other things.  

In the end, I'm reminded that congregation-based organizing efforts ultimately require complementing neighborhood and geographic based efforts to be fully effective.  Thats not a swipe at faith-based efforts, just a recognition of the fact that political districts (and efforts to make progress within them) are geographic, not cultural.



But political organizing (0.00 / 0)
generally isn't long-term, like the post-alinsky kind.  This is a real problem.  What we need are long-term social action groups on the geographic level.  ACORN does this, as do many smaller independent groups.  But I'm not sure most congregational groups realize that they "aren't" doing geographical organizing.

THanks for the positive response.  It's great to hear this from organizers on the ground--and I'm looking forward to any critique.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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I agree (0.00 / 0)
I guess i was thing more about the geography of oppression and power more than political districts- i.e. neighborhood-based efforts build power that relates more directly to existing political infrastructure.  Those in power generally have less respect for organizing efforts that don't mobilize their constituents.  

And I agree about church groups not being in touch with the fact that they are not working on a geographic level.


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Churches of various flavors and raison d'ĂȘtre (4.00 / 1)
Yes, Churches, because they do have a core body of related people, and numbers count. For those numbers, the issues a community organization defines must be consensus concerns...like, 80%+ of the membership must have some level of passion for "no nuclear waste dumping here" or "walking police patrols in the projects" if there is to be cohesion, and turnout to produce political pressure.
Even a church with a bunch of bigots will tend to oppose drinking radioactive water.
On the second issue, churches with members in/near projects want better safety, and perhaps the bigot loaded churches want less drug trafficking - still getting support, but with differing motivational emphasis.
 I have seen that example work.  And it is hard to get strong consensus issues.  An Organization needs a creative, hard working and politically aware organizer, and that takes money.
I am curious about the flap with atheists. There are a lot of atheists who are loyal, contributing church members of all flavors.
If necessary, there is usually a Unitarian group who would be delighted to accommodate them, unless their agenda is so anti-religion, they are unwilling to go for consensus issues.  I have never seen enough of them to make a lot of difference.  Smart? - yes, sometimes. Welcome? - certainly.  If they want to participate in getting power, it is easy to join one of the member groups.
This is not cynical, it is reality. Not the way the world should be perhaps, but the way it is.
I can't get beyond the need for astute, talented organizing skills, and the need for continual training and involvement.  
The relationships I have experienced in the groups I have been in have been life-changing. and yes, the relationship building process is labor intensive, and need continual nourishment and renewal.  I can see no alternative, and it takes money to hire the skill and talent to keep that level of comittment going, training new members, holding hands, dealing with the rise of naysayers, a new conservative pastor replacing an enthusiastic activist, and convincing the middle class of any color that confrontation [respectfully, but firmly] is a good thing....."Mr. Mayor, why did you take $3 million dollars from the school budget and put it in Pothole repair?  Our budget analysis leads us to insist you look at another way to deal with this rather than sacrifice our children."
There are great CPA's in the membership who can and do analyze the budgets, but teaching confrontation is IMO the biggest continuing job for an organizer.  It is pulling teeth: firm, but respectful.  It really does work.  NO righteous indignation, just the facts, calmly and politely.
And when one learns and experiences it, good political theater and fun!
I have no answer to funding the talent I think is needed.  Perhaps I need to explore the "Act Blue" model..it is easier for many to give $25 rather than get out to where the action is.  I would really like to see Soros, Buffet, Gates et al ilk start putting up some of the money.

Great series, posting, and comments.  Maybe we will get it figured out, or closer anyway.  


Thanks (0.00 / 0)
Nicely said.  We have a Unitarian member, and their pastor has said he doesn't believe in God, if I remember correctly.  

Finding talent is key. And we're not really growing talent very well. In my experience, the shortage of experienced people who have any real understanding of organizing is so great, that the people who get hired usually don't know much at all about organizing, and that's a real limitation.  

I'd like to see a much more focused effort at training a much broader range of people, both at the very entry level ("this is what organizing is") and at the "intern" level.  There are a few internships (DART, or ACORN, for example) but they are too few.  

One key way I think more people with a rounded background could come into organizing would be for universities to take more responsibility for teaching.  Not in the sense of "professionalizing," but more of what universities can be good at--bringing people up on the history, and critical thinking.  Of course, you need people to teach who actually know what they're talking about.  Which is a challenge.  When we recently tried to hire a community organizing professor, we had very few people with any "real" background apply.  

I'm planning on talking about it later, but we have a certificate program in organizing that I created at my university that has three key components: a university overview of organizing, an external training course (usually Midwest Academy), and an internship.  

The consensus issue is on the mark as well. It is much more difficult to "cut" good issues than one would think from outside.  

The "walking police patrols" raises some red flags for me, however.  There is a real tension between going with what people want (more police protection) and dealing with the fact that the prison system is one of the key forces destroying inner-city neighborhoods.  Unless organizing groups are better about linking specific actions to long term goals, as critics have said, we're not going to end up really addressing the central issues that are really causing the worst problems.  Which is not entirely fair given that you just threw it out.  But it seems like an important point, nonetheless.

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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Great to hear you've created a program (0.00 / 0)
These folks aren't perfect, but people of color interested in organizing could do worse than to look into the programs of CTWO.

And as a experienced organizer said to me recently, "everyone should work for a union for at least a short while." There's a lot to be learned from that very different organizing culture that would improve our practice in any venue.

Can it happen here?


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I've heard good things about CWTO (0.00 / 0)
But it's a long way from Milwaukee :)

I wish I knew more about union organizing.  I've been trying to get a better handle on union history, recently, but there is too much in the world to understand at the same time. . . .

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


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