The context of our dis-contents

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat May 29, 2010 at 17:00


The New Deal [Fifth] Party System (1932-1968) built the American welfare state.  The Sixth Party System (1968-2008) saw conservatives fail to destroy it, and turn to repurposing it instead--doing more and more for the wealthy and powerful, and less and less for the rest of us.  At the dawn of the Seventh Party System, Barack Obama is potentially headed toward cutting the welfare state far more seriously than conservatives ever managed to during the Sixth Party System.  This comes out of his de facto acceptance of the Versailles status quo, despite all his superficial talk of change.

As Chris noted Monday, over at Think Progress,  Jamelle Bouie singled me out as a stand-in for all progressives who "understate or dismiss most of the work Congress and President Obama have done over the past sixteen months".  He said " I need help understanding this strange impulse," and Chris-ever the gentleman-gladly obliged.  He helpfully quoted from a post by Yglesias himself from February, listing "the mainstream liberal policy agenda for the 111th Senate" and then noting that "None of these things have happened. And it's worth emphasizing that the White House hasn't even seriously attempted to do the vast majority of these things."

So, case closed on one point. But there was a broader point  Bouie began with, and it's a point worth examining more carefully, precisely because it's not so easily answered.  And for this, I think it's worth quoting the whole passage that Chris quoted from  Bouie's post:

I need help understanding how OpenLeft's Paul Rosenberg can credibly argue that Barack Obama has manically embraced "discredited conservative ideas" and "helped enormously in extended the hegemonic continuity of [the] Nixon-Reagan Eara. [Emphasis his]" More specifically, I need help understanding this strange impulse among liberals of Rosenberg's ilk to understate or dismiss most of the work Congress and President Obama have done over the past sixteen months, especially when - as David Leonhardt noted in yesterday's New York Times - it's been a burst of activity that "rivals any other since the New Deal in scope or ambition."

The broader point is about Obama's approach in general, about what one might call the context of his governance, as opposed to the content, which was dealt by Chris with via the Yglesias list.  And to begin discussing the question of Obama's context of governance, it's helpful to start by looking at the context of what I said that started all this.  To wit:

Paul Rosenberg :: The context of our dis-contents
Wave bye-bye? What if there is no GOP wave in November?

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, and George Bush was photographed posing with a guitar and giving John McCain a birthday cake, I had one happy thought to offset all the horror that was unfolding before us: I was convinced that the Democrats would win back Congress in 2006 with a wave election, and win a second wave election in 2008, along with the White House.  It would be, I believed, a classic realigning election. Howard Dean was already out there working on his 50-state strategy, which was absolutely huge.  But the Katrina disaster finally punctured the bubble of Versailles ass-covering for conservative failures.  My only regret, looking backward, was that I didn't write more systematically about what I felt.  While I was right about the shape of elections to come, the waves were not as large as I had hoped, nor were the policy consequences--due largely to Barack Obama's manic embrace of discredited conservative ideas.  This has helped enormously in extending the hegemonic continuity of Nixon-Reagan Era.  

First off, it should be clear that I didn't actually argue "that Barack Obama has manically embraced 'discredited conservative ideas' and 'helped enormously in extended the hegemonic continuity of [the] Nixon-Reagan Era'"  I simply offered that as a characterization.  In fact, as I wrote it, I briefly thought about the idea of making the argument for that characterization in a future post.  This is not that post, but hopefully this post can provide good enough justification for my characterization, so that we can have a more enlightening discussion than has happened so far.

Instead, I want to keep the focus where it was in my post-a focus on the context of politics, which is a vital part of what changes when one party system succeeds another.  How we contextualize things goes a long way toward determining how we see them (it's that damn framing thing again), and unless we take note of that fact we will continually talk about things that we take to be the same, but that are actually quite different, because of the larger contexts in which they are embedded.  For example, is this a face?

Or a landscape?

So the first order of business has to be a clarification of contexts and the meanings that flow from them.  We can only discuss the claim I made after we understand these differing contexts, and gaining that understanding is quite enough work for one diary.

Realignments, Failed Realignments & Political Context

First we must start with a quick review of party systems and realignments.  The pattern of party systems is perhaps most readily grasped through the following table:


Partisan Balance In US History

Through Six Party Systems

Control of Presidency, House & Senate


Dem-Reps: 12 / Feds: 2 / Split: 1

Dem-Reps: 9 / Whigs: 1 / Split: 7

Dems: 1 / Reps: 9 / Split: 8

Dems 3 / Reps: 12 / Split: 3

Dems: 13 / Reps: 1 / Split: 4

Dems: 3 / Reps 2.25 / Split: 13.75

what we see in this succession of systems is one dominant pattern, with minor variations, and two other patterns covering the first and last cycles. The dominant pattern is that of one-party dominance for more than three presidential elections, followed by a more mixed period.  The first party system differed because it began without well-defined parties, much less a defining election.  The election of 1800 served as the only example of a realigning election within a party system, and it could just as well be argued that the pre-1800 period should be seen a separate, very short "no-party system" of its own. What's also different is that once the Democratic-Republicans defeated the Federalists in 1800, the Federalists never recovered.  The Sixth Party System is even more radically different, because it is the only party system in which neither party dominates.  Rather divided government dominates.  What's more, it was not the result of a classic realigning election, but rather what's been called a de-aligning election.  There was no significant House wave associated with it, much less two consecutive wave elections, which is what we find normally.

Looking at the four party systems where the dominant pattern holds, we see there is always a point where the sub-dominant party manages to win power, but it never manages to consolidate that power.  This is why I call these "failed realignments".  The Whigs in the Second Party system, the Democrats in the Third and Fourth, and the Republicans in the Fifth, all managed to break the other party's stranglehold on power, but never managed to fundamental alter the basic terms of political debate.  This limitation is esquisitely captured by President Eisenhower--the only Republican President of the Fifth Party System, in a letter to his brother that's been somewhat widely quoted in recent years:

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.5 Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

The line Eisenhower draws here, excluding a small fringe whose ideas are beyond the pale, is a reflection of the political context.  Those who think outside the contextual framework of the political system will simply not be taken seriously in the end.

The sharp dividing line that Eisenhower draws here is arguably not so sharply drawn in all cases.  In the Third Party System, for example, the Democratic Party resurgence eventually resulted in the removal of federal troops from the South, and the re-establishment of a new form of legal racial subjugation that for many purposes function as a form of "slavery lite".  However, the counter-argument can simply be made that the very fact that it was "lite" shows the sharp line-it's just not where the Radical Republicans and African-Americans wanted it to be.  Similarly, although the Whigs not only gained political power during the Second Party System, but also saw their industrial model of development come to dominate, they could not re-establish a centralized national bank or other such centralizing institutions.

We are now in a position to hazard a theory about the Sixth Party System, and the atypical de-aligning election that brought it about,and that theory is this:  the de-aligning election of 1968 represented a sort of mega-failed realignment.  The conservative movement that first consolidated behind Goldwater in 1964 wanted to roll back the New Deal.  Although Nixon himself wasn't focused on this, he was focused on trying to destroy the New Deal political system. His deep hatred for the Democratic Party is well known-his inability to control that hatred ultimately destroyed his presidency.  However, Richard Reeve's biography, Richard Nixon: Alone in the White House draws significantly on Nixon's own writings, and argues that Nixon really wanted to create a third party, to free himself from Republican establishment, which seemed to hate almost as much as he hated the Democrats.  And, of course, this hatred was shared by the movement conservartives who backed Goldwater in 1964, and Reagan in 1980.

In short, we can hearken back to Eisenhower's letter, and see how the entire period from 1968 to 2008 can be seen as a failed conservative attempt to break the bounds that Eisenhower saw so clearly.  It was, in short, a failed attempt to completely overturn the mixed-economy New Deal order.  However, as the more perceptive conservatives finally realized the futility of their quest (reflected, for example, in the widespread support for social spending programs in the conservative base), they hit upon another approach: instead of getting rid of the welfare state, they would repurpose it for the benefit of conservative elites, creating a strange American reflection of the conservative welfare state vision of Otto Von Bismark.   Of course, they wouldn't abandon their strategy of totalistic rhetorical attack on the welfare state-that was far too important for keeping the base fired up (even if many of those fired up were themselves on the government dole, one way or another).  But they would no longer really be interested in winning that battle.  Not only was it futile, they now recognized, it was also better motivating for their base if they didn't win.

Objectively, a turning point came with the Bush Administration.  For the first time since the 1920s, conservatives controlled all the levers of power in government.  They were finally free to do whatever they wanted to.  And did it they did. And the results were utterly catastrophic. It was just the sort of catastrophe that realigning elections are made of, as Bush's abysmal poll numbers confirmed.

This brings us up to date historically--up to the point of my description in my diary that got this whole discussion rolling.  But it doesn't address the difference Chris sees between his take on Obama and mine. I would argue that that difference is largely semantic, and relatively superficial, compared to the encompassing context. That context encompasses a continuation of most of the Bush-era policies, and even an extension of them beyond what Bush dated imagine, especially when it comes to cutting entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security, where Obama seems quitely determined to cut far more deeply than Bush ever dreamed of.

The Third "Third Way" In Context

In his diary, Chris went on to say:

Personally, I differ a bit from Paul in that I lean toward the Ed Kilgore analysis that the Obama administration is governing largely from a Third Way ideological perspective distinct from either contemporary progressivism or Nixon / Reagan conservatism.  However, that perspective still renders the approach of the Obama administration distinct from the laundry list of progressive / liberal goals articulated by Matt Yglesias back in February.

Chris linked to this same piece by Kilgore back in February, in his diary "Great exchange between President Obama and Senator Lincoln", in which he used the example of that exchange to illustrate the difference between Blue Dogs and New Dems. It was a good example, which Chris characterized thus:

Lincoln offers no policy solutions at all.  In fact, she explicitly argues against any new policies, instead favoring "predictability."  Keep all policies the same, attack the left in public, and get lots of photo-ops and co-sponsored bills with Republicans (bills that don't change any policy, of course).  This is an identity-based ideology, just as Blue Dog-ism itself is an identity based ideology entirely about publically differentiating oneself from the left....

There are no policies here.  There are no principles.  Being a Blue Dog is just about appearing anti-left.  That is the founding, essential tenet of Blue Dog philosophy.

With surprising forcefulness, President Obama responded to Senator Lincoln that reaching out to Republicans, and adopting their policies, isn't going to do any good for Democrats.  This is because Republican policies have have failed, and caused real economic problems that are making voters angry.

However, as Chris went on to point out toward the end of his diary, the policy solutions that Obama proposes, based on a rhetoric of "what works" and shunning what he calls "ideology" are themselves not only ideological, but also based on failed policies of the past. (Chris uses the example of financial deregulation championed by Larry Summers in 1999.)

Before going there, however, Chris referenced Kilgore's article ("Taking Ideological Differences Seriously") to help flesh out the nature Obama's "Third Way" approach.

Here is a key passage from Kilgore:

To put it simply, and perhaps over-simply, on a variety of fronts (most notably financial restructuring and health care reform, but arguably on climate change as well), the Obama administration has chosen the strategy of deploying regulated and subsidized private sector entities to achieve progressive policy results. This approach was a hallmark of the so-called Clintonian, "New Democrat" movement, and the broader international movement sometimes referred to as "the Third Way," which often defended the use of private means for public ends. (It's also arguably central to the American liberal tradition going back to Woodrow Wilson, and is even evident in parts of the New Deal and Great Society initiatives alongside elements of the "social democratic" tradition, which is characterized by support for publicly operated programs in key areas).

To be clear, this is not the same as the conservative "privatization" strategy, which simply devolves public responsibilities to private entities without much in the way of regulation. In education policy, to cite one example, New Democrats (and the Obama administration) have championed charter public schools, which are highly regulated but privately operated schools that receive public funds in exchange for successful performance of publicly-defined tasks. Conservatives have typically called for private-school vouchers, which simply shift public funds to private schools more or less unconditionally, on the theory that they know best how to educate children.


As you might have guessed from the previous section of this diary, I see things somewhat differently.  Kilgore stresses an ideological difference between between the Third Way and the "social democratic" tradition based on means: private vs. public means to serve public ends.  But this narrow focus on means obscures the big picture--the political context that I wrote about above.  And it's this big picutre that has already made a mockery of the distinction Kilgore draws here:

In education policy, to cite one example, New Democrats (and the Obama administration) have championed charter public schools, which are highly regulated but privately operated schools that receive public funds in exchange for successful performance of publicly-defined tasks.

As anyone following Open Left's coverage of education knows, by this point there's nothing but vacuous spin to distinguish Obama's attack on public education from Bush's.  And the reason that difference has evaporated, I would argue, is because Obama fundamentally accepts the Nixon/Reagan/Bush definition of reality, despite it's horrendous record of failure upon failure upon failure.

To underscore pathetic, visionless nature of the so-called "Third Way," I'd like to refer to the diary I wrote at the time, responding to Chris & to Kilgore's analysis, "What's wrong with the third 'Third Way'".  In that diary I argued that there have been three "Third Ways":

The first "Third Way" was social democracy, as exemplified by the German Social Democratic Party.  It was a "Third Way" between naked capitalism and revolutionary socialism.  Their main policy for gaining broad public support was universal health care-in the 1870s.  It was a very popular idea-so popular, in fact, that conservative mastermind Otto Van Bismark decided to co-opt the idea...

Bismark created the first conservative welfare state by instituting universal health care and other social  protections in ways that tended to reinforce existing social hierarchies and the social, political and economic power of elites. But the conservative welfare state " was still a rather robust-and non-market-affair", I explained, by way of introducint the second "Third Way":

This then gave rise to the second "Third Way", a more scaled-down form of the welfare state that was primarily concerned to just clean up the mess that the market caused and couldn't handle itself.  It therefore favored narrowly-targeted approaches that had as little systematic impact on the market economy as possible. This approach developed almost exclusively in the English-speaking world-Britain, Canada, the US, Australia and New Zealand....

The US was the most extreme example of this second "Third Way," with private pension benefits accounting for a substantial portion of its overall social insurance, a situation that proved to be highly precarious as union power was deliberately undermined, beginning with the election of Ronald Reagan.


Weak and inadequate as it was, the American welfare state was the only one Americans knew--and that was one too many for America's extreme conservatives, who sought its utter destruction, invoking a free-market myth that no economy on earth had ever been based on. Their attack couldn't succeed, because programs like Social Security and Medicare are far too popular--even with conservative voters.  But rhetorical success was another matter.

The third "Third Way" is an attempt to navigate a middle path between delusional free-market rhetoric and the relatively incomplete and minimalist welfare state that America had managed to cobble together up through the 1970s. But the particular strategy and tactics employed are far less significant in the long run than the fact that such relative minutua serve to totally obscure the big picture, in which a massive and seemingly permanent upward transfer of wealth--begun by conservatives--will be continued until America has the class structure of a Third World nation.

The devotion to propping up the big banks that caused the financial meltdown, combined with almost total neglect of millions of families facing foreclosure is emblematic of this entire approach.  The relative minutua of policy mechanisms, which Kilgore stresses so much, is entirely secondary to the big picture massive wealth transfer that is taking place at the core of American policital and economic life.

And all that upwards wealth transfer is happening before the impact of global warming sets in, with its vastly disproportionate impact on the poor and politically powerless.  We are, quite literally, being steered backwards in time toward a New Dark Age.  The witch-hunts have barely even begun.


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Something wicked this way comes (4.00 / 3)
...the big picture, in which a massive and seemingly permanent upward transfer of wealth--begun by conservatives--will be continued until America has the class structure of a Third World nation.

Unrepentant leftist that I am, I sometimes amuse myself in Democratic Party meetings by daydreaming about the stunned looks which will appear on the faces of the speakers urging us to choose and defend viable candidates when the immigrants' gladness does finally and inescapably come to pass. It will, of course, and sooner than many of us imagine. As for the wise men and women of our party, it seems clear that they'd rather drown than start measuring in cubits now, while they still have the chance.

I'm not naive enough to believe, mind you, that the class structure of a third-world country wouldn't be sustainable in this country under normal circumstances, if by normal we mean those in which outside pressures are non-existent. I just don't think that we're going to see that kind of normal ever again.


When I Think "Third World Class Structure" (4.00 / 3)
I think Brazil, 1964; Chile, 1973; El Salvador, 1980.

You just don't get that sort of class structure without massive helpings of violence.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Or, as I have puzzled many before, the foreign policy of the United States (4.00 / 2)
has been. is, to make most of the world into East LA, and its domestic policy is to make the US into Haiti. The image of the immediate class system is drawn out in its racial system. If you want to see the future design of our class system, look at N'Orleans.

I await the next installment of this masterful delineation.


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that's domestic policy (4.00 / 1)
and New Orleanization is short-sighted. Embracing my cynical aspect I posit that the ultimate goal of the corporocrats is to push the US worker to the level of the folks enslaved at Foxcomm. New Orleans and Detroit are luxuries that the neo-Rich will not abide.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Oh, without a doubt (4.00 / 6)
but when I look at the same examples as you do, I see U.S. fingerprints -- and cash money -- all over them. Everything from guarantees that we'll look the other way if someone should happen to get shot, to contributions to the Swiss bank accounts of the oligarchy, to blocking any effective actions against them in the OAS and U.N. And let us not forget the free tickets to the School of the Americas for their officer corps and cheap deals on helicopters and tanks (in exchange, of course, for certain privileges in the country once order has been restored.)

My thinking is that the U.S. -- unlike, say, El Salvador or Honduras -- wouldn't need any outside help or even forbearance to manage the same sorts of atrocities within its own borders. At things presently stand, it would certainly be difficult, but as Naomi Klein and others have pointed out, the conditioning which would permit such things has already been underway for several decades, and it would be hard to deny that under GWB, it was ramped up considerably, or that our new President hasn't shown any particular zeal in reversing the process.

I'm not Nostradamus, but I am feeling a teensy bit like Cassandra these days, just as you undoubtedly are. Let's hope that we're both wrong.


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I'd like to single out Jamelle Bouie (4.00 / 10)
as a stand in for all progressives who overstate and misunderstand "most of the work Congress and President Obama have done over the past sixteen months."

Let's look at the heart of his case of Obama and the Dems' progressiveness (which has to be the heart of anyone's case, the two "big" bills):

The Affordable Care Act will provide health insurance to 32 million Americans, protect the insurance of millions more, and eventually guarantee health insurance to every American regardless of employment status. At present, Congress is on the verge of passing a financial reform bill that goes a long way towards preventing a reoccurrence of the conditions that led to the industry's collapse in 2008.

2 blatant falsehoods. The health bill doesn't "eventually guarantee health insurance to every American." And the financial reform bill -- which by the way is still being created-- won't go a long way "towards preventing a reoccurrence of the conditions that led to the industry's collapse in 2008." Those conditions still exist (no re-occurrence needed) and will exist after this weak bill is enacted.

More generally, neither bill does much if anything to limit the power of Wall Street banks or the corporate players in health care. You could make the case that these bill make these forces even more powerful.

I know Obama wants us to believe that everyone can win -- Jamie Dimon and working stiffs, PHRMA and the less lucky classes --but there's no reason for progressives to buy the bullshit.

On this topic Bob Herbert had a good piece today.

The oil companies and other giant corporations have a stranglehold on American policies and behavior, and are choking off the prospects of a viable social and economic future for working people and their families.

President Obama spoke critically a couple of weeks ago about the "cozy relationship" between the oil companies and the federal government. It's not just a cozy relationship. It's an unholy alliance. And that alliance includes not just the oil companies but the entire spectrum of giant corporations that have used vast wealth to turn democratically elected officials into handmaidens, thus undermining not just the day-to-day interests of the people but the very essence of democracy itself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05...



Well, The Financial Reforms Are The Most Sweeping We've Seen Since 1999 (4.00 / 2)
And that was all the way back in the previous millenium!

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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You're not an effective apologist (0.00 / 0)
These are the most sweeping reforms in a 1000 years.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Obama's two-class progressivism (4.00 / 9)
I agree with you that the re-purposing of the public sphere to support private ownership is the underlying theme in Obama's administration. I do not agree that this approach is destined to fail. By "fail" I mean fail in the sense that the average citizen will know intuitively and without any confusion that it has failed, even after it has failed.

When I look at the complexity, speed and distribution of information that we are subjected to on a daily basis, I can can clearly understand how such an informational system can be used, especially in the fields of economics and politics, to do whatever the hell the people who control the flow of information in that system want to do. For example, with only a few milliseconds information advantage over anyone else, an organization can continually, and with very little risk, engage in a stream of financial transactions that will return profits in the tens of millions of dollars, day after day. With the active involvement of the media and its ability to anticipate and manipulate the news cycle, a political party can say one thing in public and do nearly the opposite in private. Our recent healthcare reform and education reform are clear examples.

Where the Obama administration is concerned, anytime I hear the word "reform" I understand it to mean a long-term transfer of wealth from the working class to the corporate elite. I also agree with you that by re-purposing New Deal social programs, Obama has put us on the path to a two-class social system with a speed and efficiency that George Bush could only have dreamed of.


Clarification (4.00 / 5)
I wouldn't draw such a sharp distinction between Bush and Obama.  It's more a matter of smoothness than anything else.  The re-purposing began very early on in the Reagan Administration, but was very crude at first, then got slicker over time, until Bush bumbled into town, and didn't really have to be smooth, since all of Versailles was just dying to live in his hip pocket.

Eventually, us DFHs made enough noise that the utter incompetence started to matter.  So now we have a Democratic president to shut us all up--and a black one at that!  But this whole BP oil spill thingie is seriously gumming things up.  Heck, he might not even be able to gut Social Security and Medicare if things keep going like this.

Moral:  You can smooth your way into a tight situation just as easily as you can smooth your way out.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I'll take that bet (0.00 / 0)
I also agree with you that by re-purposing New Deal social programs, Obama has put us on the path to a two-class social system with a speed and efficiency that George Bush could only have dreamed of.

The Obama administration is clearly neoliberal, thus very much a mixed bag from the liberal prospective.  But I'm willing to bet the wealth distribution after 8 years of Obama will be flatter than after 8 years of Bush.


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Mark, (4.00 / 2)
Any idea how much wealth has already been lost in housing stock since Obama took over?

The low end may well be flattened after 8 years of Obama.  That much I think would be a safe bet.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Not only that (0.00 / 0)
The market hadn't recovered as Bush left office, further stacking the odds against me.  I'll still take that bet.

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Next 8 years? (0.00 / 0)
what about the last one?

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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capitalism out of control (4.00 / 1)
The memo, written by a Labor Department official earlier this week and obtained by McClatchy, reveals the Obama administration's growing concerns about potential health and safety problems posed by the oil spill and its inability to force BP to respond to them.  McClatchy

Obama is moe of Bush and Bill Clinton.  

They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  


Self definition and more (4.00 / 7)
Somewhere, I think during his search for Blue Dog backing of the stimulus package, Barack Obama defined himself as a New Democrat.  This seemed accurate and I have seen little to change that statement since.

A lot of what Paul says has been agreed to by Obama but is seriously disputed by Obama supporters, or at least some of them.  He's not a blank tablet although he may have appeared that way to many during the primaries.

Obama's support of the "deficit reduction" plan, e.g. the wrecking of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid I think places him outside of the New Democrat context and well to the right.  Should he scrap that and defend Social Security, I'd feel a whole lot better.  Scrap the whole darned war on drugs and spend it all on deficit reduction if you have to.  Get rid of Afghanistan and Iraq and another $200 billion of military waste along with it.  Yet in a "nothing is off the table" these two sacred cows ($415 billion at least per year) are very much off the table.  So are more taxes for corporations and the rich including the full end of most of the Bush tax cuts that should have expired automatically.

Ian Welsh says that Greece has no need to scrap its safety net and ruin its economy.  All it needs is to collect taxes, mainly from the rich.  Add in defense spending and we are in the same situation.  The answers are really easy if Versailles and its minions would disappear.


Well, Yes (4.00 / 5)
The answers are really easy if Versailles and its minions would disappear.

Especially seeing as how Versailles and its minions are the problem.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Lobbyists and Campaign Finance Reform (4.00 / 3)
Thanks, Paul, for another thoughtful post. In the past week, I came across this excerpt in a Taibbi article in Rolling Stone about the financial regulation bill in the Senate that your piece today reminded me about today:

The lobbying campaign for Goldman Sachs, for instance, is being headed up by a former top staffer for Rep. Barney Frank, Michael Paese, who is coordinating some 14 different lobbying firms to fight on Goldman's behalf. The bank is also represented by Capitol Hill heavyweights like former House majority leader Dick Gephardt and former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein. All told, there are at least 40 ex-staffers of the Senate Banking Committee - and even one former senator, Trent Lott - lobbying on behalf of Wall Street.

This is the heart of the problem in this country, for our democracy and for our economy. When Cheney-Bush were put into office in 2001, I joked to my wife, "Welcome to the 1890s!" with visions of grand 19th century corruption in my head. What escaped me is that such a system could be bipartisan, that both parties would elect politicians whose primary purpose (and interest) is to maintain the corrupt status quo. Worse, that these politicians would see nothing wrong with their program. Taibbi's list of lobbyists really outlines the depth and normalcy of the corruption. Money is no object. Using your connections from public office is a depreciating asset to be monetized.

The good news is that all corrupt systems eventually fail. The third and fourth generations are always dim-witted, to be kind, and make all sorts of errors and commit public outrages too obvious to ignore.

My question is what we need to do to make this house of cards completely collapse. Part of the solution is to change the lobbying laws and campaign finance laws (if that's even possible at this late date). Part of the solution is pushing back with the media and politicians, which we've done in the past few years with better and better results. And part of the solution is to groom and hire better politicians, which we've also had increasingly better results. Probably there are other steps, as well, for example, trying to recruit people like Grayson to publicly call out these outrages like the BP oil spill and, when we get to it, the gutting of Social Security to let Bill Gates and hedge fund managers pay only 15% income tax.

But it's extremely demoralizing overall. Especially when Obama signs on to all the worst of the Republican ideas, for example, his Race to The Top program and his deficit commission. As a voter and spectator, I'm dying to find out how all this will end. Hopefully not badly.


It's Definitely Time For Us To Step Up Our Game (0.00 / 0)
Exposing systemic corruption is more and more important, as you note, since the system is virtually incapable of doing any good in its current condition.

But this is just the way it was in the late 1800s.  The corruption then was also bipartisan, which is why the Populist Party arose, and then why populists gained a foothold in the Democratic Party as well--after which progressive reformers gained a foothold in the GOP, too.

So, progressve is possible, but it requires a willingness to try new things.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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That Had Not Occurred to Me (0.00 / 0)
It's a pleasant conceit to think we may be the Populists of a hundred years ago, that we are on the cusp of the upside, away from greed and selfishness. Makes you wonder who might be our next TR and FDR. I'd prefer them to bland ciphers like Bush. And I wonder if we'll see them in this party system or the next? That's what makes the party system construct so interesting: we have free will within cycles.

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Indeed... (4.00 / 1)
It seems to me that the progressive movement is still largely dormant, although quite real and potentially very large. Nevertheless, leadership is needed to coordinate and focus this effort. An authentic and effective leader would be a catalyst for major change.

Change? Funny how that worked out. We'll have to admit it, they are good.


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I forgot to say, (4.00 / 1)
the image of the head/landscape painting that Paul used to introduce this topic is perfect. We need to change the dominant political gestalt if we are going to generate a countervailing progressive narrative (image).  

I think leadership is essential to this reframing and is one of the most effective ways to make our positions manifest. By the way, the reason Obama--a great orator--is having trouble messaging is because he can't or is unwilling to change the narrative.


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And Speaking of Narratives (0.00 / 0)
this leads directly into the discussion in my diary on Lakoff re Obama.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Congressional pensions (4.00 / 1)
Congressional pensions used to be really sweet but those days have been refomed out of business.  Instead we have a large group of aging Senators (27% aged 70 or older) and huge payoffs on the lobbying front.  And the GOP plebs still complain and moan about the retirement bonanza when it is the alternative lobbying that is cost us billions and maybe even a trillion when you get right down to it.

We need big pensions but an absolute prohibition on outside work.


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You quote Bowers on blue dogs (4.00 / 1)
"Lincoln offers no policy solutions at all.  In fact, she explicitly argues against any new policies, instead favoring "predictability."  Keep all policies the same, attack the left in public, and get lots of photo-ops and co-sponsored bills with Republicans (bills that don't change any policy, of course).  This is an identity-based ideology, just as Blue Dog-ism itself is an identity based ideology entirely about publically differentiating oneself from the left....

There are no policies here.  There are no principles.  Being a Blue Dog is just about appearing anti-left.  That is the founding, essential tenet of Blue Dog philosophy.

With surprising forcefulness, President Obama responded to Senator Lincoln that reaching out to Republicans, and adopting their policies, isn't going to do any good for Democrats.  This is because Republican policies have have failed, and caused real economic problems that are making voters angry."

and I think it is a great passage and very perceptive. But I think what Bowers misses is: wherever Obama  is on the political spectrum (and clearly they are not blue dogs) it was critical for him and his administration as well to publicly and definitively position themselves as anti-left. This was done repeatedly in the early going so much so that it almost does not bear repeating any longer. Bowers acknowledges as much when he accepts the Obama win on political messaging, I would guess intervening now only when the deliberate provocative anti-left, anti-progressive attacks become too blatant (as in Bouie's case). It is a matter of careful tiptoeing to try to support Obama and the Democrats and keep progressive bona fides.
Mike Lux has argued in the past that Obama and the left need each other. That has not been the view from the administration clearly. The left is an after-thought at best, a bad bit of indigestion after the main meal. I think they could have used at various points vocal and partisan support from the left...they haven't wanted it and they certainly have made sure not to get it. On the other side of the Lux alliance, it is not at all clear to me that progressives get anything from this administration. There have been tidbits: stem cell research, some parts of the stimulus. But most of the administration has been to foster the consensus agenda that favors the big corporations, banks, oil companies, the military and to prepare the populace for austerity. To assuage anger and frustration and provide no real relief. . The administration is marching the country in a direction that is not only different from the progressive direction, but you can't go from here to there on their path.
I found Rosenberg's insight that the oil spill might gum up the coming administration attack on social security and medicare very interesting and certainly worth more thought and attention.


But Chris DID Cite Obama's Anti-Leftism (0.00 / 0)
I think it is a great passage and very perceptive. But I think what Bowers misses is: wherever Obama  is on the political spectrum (and clearly they are not blue dogs) it was critical for him and his administration as well to publicly and definitively position themselves as anti-left.

I originally wanted to quote the following from Chris's diary, but my diary is pretty long as it is, and you see how long this passage gets, even without any commentary on it:

There is, however, one area where Blue Dog-ism and New Democrat-ism share common ground: they both view attacking the left in public as a necessity.  More from President Obama's answer to Lincoln:
    OBAMA: So the point I'm making -- and Blanche is exactly right -- we've got to be non-ideological about our approach to these things. We've got to make sure that our party understands that, like it or not, we have to have a financial system that is healthy and functioning, so we can't be demonizing every bank out there. We've got to be the party of business, small business and large business, because they produce jobs. We've got to be in favor of competition and exports and trade. We don't want to be looking backwards. We can't just go back to the New Deal and try to grab all the same policies of the 1930s and think somehow they'd work in the 21st century.

    So Blanche is exactly right that sometimes we get ideologically bogged down. I just want to find out what works, and I know you do, too, and I know the people in Arkansas do, too.

President Obama wants to find out what works, rather than clinging to the 1930's.  That is why he hired Larry Summers, who praised the overhaul of New Deal financial regulations in 1999 thusly:

    "Today Congress voted to update the rules that have governed financial services since the Great Depression and replace them with a system for the 21st century," Summers said

We all know that scrapping those 1930's policies package worked out so well, and that President Obama made Larry Summers the head of National Economic Council.  As such, we can have faith that President Obama did this based on the smashing success of ditching 1930's regulations, and not because, unlike the left, President Obama is taking an ideological position on business.



"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I agree. That is certainly a very fine passage (4.00 / 1)
making the points I was making.

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Paul (4.00 / 3)
Jamelle wrote, and I quoted...

Right now, liberals (again, of Rosenberg's ilk) ought to spend less time lamenting Obama's aversion to ideological orthodoxy and more time working to defend and improve progressive governance.

Intellectually, I choked at Obama's aversion to ideological orthodoxy.  I've referred repeatedly to GGreenwald's

There's a difference -- a fundamental one -- between (a) being pragmatic in trying to implement one's principles and (b) having no principles at all and and glorifying that unanchored emptiness as "pragmatism." [...] In virtually every realm ... that has been the great political failure of the Obama administration.

And, yet... Some "principle" or other has to be guiding Obama's decisions.  Somewhere there is a basis for them.  Maybe it's a coherent ideology, or maybe it's an incoherent one, but it's purposeful, regardless.  That the purpose is so determinedly at odds with what many who voted for Obama (and, not simply against McCain) gives rise to complaint should be neither surprising, nor subject to condemnation.  The complaint is a coherent, sane and rational response to a betrayal of Campaign Obama by President Obama.  It's the inclination to defend of Obama's purpose that strikes me as irrational and gives rise to an incoherent claim for pragmatism.

Ergo, I resolved my logic-tangle and my hiccuping thought train, with

Pragmatism!!1!!11!  A claim to the last refuge of those who would defend Obama and the Democrats at any cost, and do.

The claim need not be coherent, logical, coherent, or accurate.  It need only give Obama's defenders cover; something to point to, a response, a place to go, or refuge from those who would press some amount of cognitive dissonance upon them, or threaten to unmask them.  It need not be a "true" claim; it need only be a plausible claim, and it's a claim they need not even be required to understand.

As Obama's administration spools out, it seems apparent to me that there this purposeful or purposed behavior has an intellectual platform.  It may be the descendant of something more familiar, or it may be its own thing.  But, whatever it is [and, I think you've initiated the definition here, and defined it in a more recent post - I am so far behind!] it is hidden beneath/behind the apologia of pragmatism that his defenders deploy.  


Perhaps, At Bottom (4.00 / 2)
it's as simple as preserving the interior narrative that one is actually a liberal-minded person, despite choosing to walk away from the great political challenges of our time, despite all the conservative policies one accapts.

This would also explain the intense anger towards those of us on the left.  We give the lie to their comforting inner narrative in a way that nothing else can.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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