"Nudge" vs. "grudge": A revealing failure mode for Sunstein's micro-managing

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Jun 05, 2010 at 18:00


As a follow-up to my earlier post, "Identity economics--a major breakthrough?", here's a look at how differences in ideological identities produce different activities, while simultaneously revealing a major conceptual problem with the minimalist "Third Way" infatuation with "nudges".

A couple of weeks back, at the Monkey Cage,  Erik Voeten called attention to a very interesting finding about how Cass Sunstein-touted "nudges" can work like a charm to reduce energy consumption with liberals, but utterly fail with conservatives, who actually increased their energy usage in response to nudges pushing them the other way.  This is, I believe, a fascinating example of how Identity Economics can help shed light on the limits of more narrow-minded technocratic fixes--and possibly even help to craft them more intelligently.  (It should be noted that Sunstein's "nudges" are presented within the context of "behavioral economics", and take into account deviations from perfect information along the lines of Akerlof's earlier work, but they still fall within the overall narrative framework pushed by market fundamentalists that privileges approaches that don't rock the boat, don't raise systemic questions, and don't challenge existing structures of power.) Here's Erik:

This is pretty startling evidence of how political polarization affects every day life choices, and not in a good way (although the effects are not huge). The NBER paper [by Dora Costa and Matthew Kahn] is here, a short discussion by the authors is here and the abstract is below.
    "Nudges" are being widely promoted to encourage energy conservation. We show that while the electricity conservation "nudge" of providing feedback to households on own and peers' home electricity usage works with liberals, it can backfire with conservatives. Our regression estimates predict that a Democratic household that pays for electricity from renewable sources, that donates to environmental groups, and that lives in a liberal neighborhood reduces its consumption by 3 percent in response to this nudge. A Republican household that does not pay for electricity from renewable sources and that does not donate to environmental groups increases its consumption by 1 percent.

In the discussion, the researchers add:

If the same message "turns on" greens but "turns off" more conservative individuals, then to reach out to all members of a diverse population requires a mixed-messages strategy....
To design nudges effectively, a "nudger" must anticipate how diverse subjects will respond. We have shown that while energy conservation nudges work with liberals, they backfire with conservatives. Greens may reduce their consumption in response to the receipt of a Home Energy Report because both private and social effects work in the same direction. They want to be good global citizens and suffer when they are made aware that they are "part of the problem."

The obvious lesson for field experiments is that on polarised issues even seemingly innocuous messages may trigger perverse effects. What works on average in this California county may not work on average in Lubbock, Texas if the proportion of greens is less.

At Pandagon, Amanda commented on this finding in her post, Kicking a hippie is a powerful motivator.  

Paul Rosenberg :: "Nudge" vs. "grudge": A revealing failure mode for Sunstein's micro-managing
By relying on Sunstein's original presentation, which she wrote about here, Amanda mis-stated the details, thinking that the "nudge" consisted of a "happy face" message for those who reduced their energy usage vs. a "frowny face" for those who did not. (more on the actual nudge below).  This lead to her reflecting on how easily this could set conservative off--and she's definitely got a point there:

If the frowny face is perceived as belonging to liberals---and it probably is, since the face is sad that you are wasting energy---then seeing it frown might actually provide a conservative with pleasure, and therefore it rewards wastefulness. On this site, we've discussed the various "kick a hippie" anti-environmentalism initiatives that conservatives undertake to both reassure themselves that they're not bad people for wasting and to piss off liberals. (For instance, check out the comments here.) In fact, many conservatives are less about policy and principles in general, and their ideology can be summed up as hatred of those perceived to be liberals.

Yet, I find it even more interesting and important that the actual "nudge"--discussed in a moment below--was  much less ripe for taking offense at than Amanda assumed.  That only makes her point even stronger, in a way. But because it's so relatively innocuous, it also points us more strongly in the direction of Identity Economics, since matters of identity often hinge on seemingly small details.

Before turning to the details, one final note: What this reveals to me, at the most obvious level, is a modest pragmatic flaw in the Sunstein/Obama approach that may be rectifiable, but a fatal conceptual flaw, if the concept is that nudges provide a sort of silver bullet way around ideology--which is precisely what appears to be their talismanic function for the Obama mindset.  The idea that such "neutral" "nudges" are uniquely suited for reaching conservatives is an illusion, reflecting the same cold, hard reality that Obama experienced in his vain attempt to gain bipartisan cooperation. What's far more likely is that nudges will only work as well on conservatives once liberals have established at least some degree of hegemony, so that saving the planet for our children's sake is no longer considered anti-American.

The Actual Study

The study itself is written up in an NBER (National Bureau of Economic Research) working paper, Energy Conservation "Nudges" and Environmentalist Ideology: Evidence from a Randomized Residential Electricity Field Experiment by Dora L. Costa and Matthew E. Kahn.  In it, they write:

We view ideology as a set of exogenous prior beliefs, including those about the
importance of energy conservation. The ideological divide on environmental issues between
Democrats and Republicans will affect how a household responds to an energy conservation
"nudge."

The "nudge" that the electric utility company sends to treatment households in an ongoing
randomized experiment to encourage reductions in electricity consumption is a two page
Home Electricity Report (see Appendix A for a sample). The front page compares the electricity
consumption of the household with all neighbors with similar size homes and heat type and with
neighbors who are in the bottom 20th percentile of electricity usage. The back page compares the
household's electricity usage in the current month relative to the same time month in the prior
year and awards green stars in every month the household consumed less relative to the same
month in the past year (not shown in Appendix A). It also provides three tips for saving
energy, such as turning down the thermostat when using an electric blanket or purchasing an
Energy Star durable, and indicates the dollar amount in energy savings per year.

Here are jpeg versions of the Home Electricity Report, which I think shows itself to be relatively free from red flags:


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Conclusion

If such a relatively innocuouos "nudge" instrument nonetheless shows a measurable "irrational" response, we can't help but conclude that (a) "nudges" are not in general a way around ideological differences, at least any more than carefully crafted political compromises, for example, and (b) identity economics is really onto something very important, which we ignore at our peril.


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Can Zionist strategists be made to see the light? (0.00 / 0)
1. The sponsor of Israel, the United States, is a declining, unreliable shield.

2. The "delta", as they call it, the difference between Israeli military technology and that of their supposed enemies, the Arabs and Muslims, is decreasing.

2b. This includes the nuclear monopoly.

3. An Israel which pursues peace with its neighbors will have the support of the international community; recalcitrant religious fanatics who oppose peace will be diplomatically isolated.

4. The goal of Israel is not "victory", but prosperous survival. What does it matter if 100 Islamic cites have been incinerated if 5 Israeli cities have suffered the same fate? What does it matter if Palestinians live in ghettos if Israelis live in barracks?

All of this sums up to using the waning days of military advantage to seek peace and the liberalization of Arab youth.

As always, religious fanaticism is the disease, and liberty (of mind and body) is the cure.


Wrong Diary, Dude! (4.00 / 1)
But long-time community members will hardly be surprised, methinks.

(Nudge, nudge, nudge!)

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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why don't we make taxes optional? (4.00 / 2)
Give everyone who pays their taxes a free "I PAID MY TAXES" T-shirt so they can go around showing what good citizens they are for having paid their taxes.

Sunstein's thinking is some srsly srs nonsense.

Taken to its limit it would mean that all laws should be turned into suggestions backed with small incentives, and the government should not do anything to enforce them. It's completely absurd.


It's Easy To See How Foolish It All Is (4.00 / 3)
but it's much, much harder to figure out how to prove how foolish it is inside its own framework of assumptions.

That's what's so neat about this example.

There's a faint whiff of Goedel's incompleteness theorem wafting about all such successful examples.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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"All laws should be turned into suggestions " (4.00 / 3)
Reminds me of Jack Handey's idea that science shouldn't be taught in terms of "facts" but of "impressions", and if my impression of the mathematics is different than yours, no big deal, there's room enough in the world for both of us.  

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Hey, it sure works for Wall Street, eh? (4.00 / 2)


"Bad jokes and gay marriage are destroying this country. But torture can save it." -- Jon Stewart

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You nailed it. (0.00 / 0)
Your comment really gets to the heart of the matter for me. The clear and obvious solution to the specific example Paul uses is a carbon tax. Sunstein's whole nudge deal seems to amount to a feeble excuse to avoid the obvious practical solution, simply because the obvious practical solution is opposed by very rich and powerful interests. And Mr. Sunstein seems to have climbed very far up the ladder of elite success with his elaborate theory of half-assed measures that conveniently avoids taking stronger steps that might inconvenience rich and powerful interests. I really question Paul's strategery of trying to get down in the weeds and subvert this nudge bullshit from within it's own logical framework, when it can so much more easily be debunked by stepping back and calling it out for what it is: ridiculously feeble partial solutions designed not to piss off rich people.

Back to the specific example, it is perfectly fair to use taxes to account for externalities that are not accounted for in the "free market." A carbon tax is a no-brainer. We should fight for it and try to elect politicians who will enact it, and call out Sunstein as a tool who should be ignored.

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Qualification: (0.00 / 0)
I did not mean to suggest that Paul's point here is not interesting or not worth making. I just think that the main thrust of the argument against the whole "nudge" idea should be made in other ways.

miasmo.com

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I've Never Been An Either/Or Kind Of Guy (4.00 / 4)
And of course, there's plenty of different objections one can raise to Sunstein's politics.

But the basic idea of "nudges"--which is hardly original with Sunstein--is a perfectly good, if somewhat limited tool.  And it makes good sense to have a firm grasp of just what it's good for, what it's not, and why, independent of all the trickery and deceit that may be garbled up with it.

More than that, however, I find it deliciously ironic how the notion can be used to bring into focus precisely the sorts of basic ideological differences that it's supposed to provide an escape from.

Yeah, so maybe you have to be a nerd's nerd to find this sort of irony as satisfying as I do. But for my part, it leaves me thinking of Jackie Gleason saying, "How sweat it is!"

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I don't think that neutral politics can work (4.00 / 7)
According to liberal pluralism the state (like the economy) has no values or message and just provides an arena within which individuals can realize their own private values. But values aren't as private as that, they're shared across groups, the neutral state isn't really neutral but biased in an economic direction, and a healthy society needs a pretty good substrate of shared values.

I run into people now and then who would take a positive joy in, e.g., hunting an endangered species or doing all kinds of other things that are "un PC". There was a whole cigar-smoking ritual cult developed around that. If too many people go that way society doesn't collapse, but it becomes ugly and settles to the lowest coon denomination of meanness, which we're working on.

Some of the perverse acting out of conservatives is a kind enraged response to some kind of perceived liberal relativism, transgressivism,  or excessive tolerance. Usually it goes off in an ugly direction, but at times I can understand the motive.  


This Starts To Take Us Back In The Direction of (4.00 / 3)
Cultural Cognition, which I wrote about in A social science approach to global warming denialism Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3. I think they are right to conclude that the classical Enlightenment concept of a rational disinterested framework for self-government is fundamentally flawed.

However, we are fortunate that historically, US political philosophy is based in two distinct political traditions.  One is Renaissance Republicanism, the other Enlightenment liberalism. They are logically at odds with one another, but no one says that they have to be logically compatible.  What matters is that we can pragmatically combine them in different ways as different needs arise.  Do these philosophies rule us?  Or are they meant to serve us in pursuit of wise self-governance?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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"Common denominater" for God's sake. My inner racist slipped out. (0.00 / 0)


Brother isn't as big as he thinks (4.00 / 7)
What bothers me about smartypants guys like Sunstein is that they always think of themselves as the invisible hand, as in the objects of their machinations either can't see the wise manager behind the curtain, or if they can, won't have a negative reaction to discovering themselves to be the subject of an experiment in social engineering. I'm with John Emerson in being as pissed off as any teabagger when I catch somebody at stuff like this. It's why I've long despised most advertising and all of those does-beating-your-wife-make-you-feel-good-or-bad? surveys.

In other words, statistics untailored to the need to make these guys look like geniuses might show what all of us already know: that the range of reactions to being nudged is far too complex for their purposes. They're just looking for a hammer, and if a little one won't do, like Stalin, they'll just look for a bigger one. Who cares what the nail thinks?


It's Quite Different, Though (4.00 / 2)
when folks voluntarily agree to these sorts of things.  Like divying up family chores.  The problem with technocrats is often not their ideas so much as their lack of attention to context.

If they were truly serving human needs, answering actual people in actual need, rather than serving their own concepts of human need, then they'd be part of a cybernetic loop, rather than godlets playing at being the Big Guy.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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On being in the same boat with everyone else (4.00 / 6)
Yes, the cybernetic loop, which if I'm not very much mistaken was what we used to call democracy. That was way back before our cybernetic systems got so fucking big, of course, and before we got too fucking smart to look before we leap.

Ah, well.... (I can hear my Mom, God rest her, threatening to wash my mouth out with soap, so maybe I should go easy on the fuck these fucking fucks stuff and end by saying that you guys are just about the only people writing on politics these days who don't fall into either of the twin traps of demagoguery and managerialism. You actually think about what democracy is, or could be, and how we might re-create something enough like it to actually do some good.)

For that, I'm truly grateful to you.


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Seems to me Sunstein depends on a stark denial of human nature. (4.00 / 6)
Fundamentalists comprise a significant percentage of Right Wing Authoritarian followers, and they don't respond to certain stimuli the way the rest of us do (according to Dr. Altermeyer). For Judeo-Christian fundamentalist  RWAs, the whole notion of the need to conserve natural resources prima facie counters the Hebrew Bible notion of Man having dominion over the earth and its animals.

Scripture does (I think) however imply man's obligation to be a good steward, so rather than a "nudge" a good thump of Bible might be indicated for the fundamentalist tribe.
;-)


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I know it's not the subject of this diary ... (0.00 / 0)
but since it involves Sunstein ... and it always bears repeating .. I laugh when ever Beckistan attacks Sunstein .. where did Beck ever figure that most activist Democrats/Progressives give a shit about Sunstein?  Van Jones .. sure .. but Sunstein?

This is a super important diary, Paul. (4.00 / 1)
And, it's a real credit to you that you connected the dots between this and your previous post so well.  "Nudge" is where Obama draws his notions of economic policies wrt Main Street. Wall Street, of course, gets a different treatment; nothing is left to chance there.  You're correct to note that within the context of Identity Economics and Main Street, it represents a major conceptual flaw.  Oddly, "nudge" might work a little better within the context of Wall Street where the players are likely to be more homogeneous.  This is the kind of muddy thinking that the law of large numbers and regression to the mean cannot solve.  If your assumptions are wrong, then whole model and its projections go to dust.  And, the policies your might construct based on that model (that goes untested) are bound to fail.


There are elements of Nudge (4.00 / 2)
that I agree with. The basic idea that choices are always structured, that there is no neutral choice structure, is true. The claim that it sometimes makes sense to consciously shape those structures is persuasive, although its scope is less than they think.  The problem you've cited is one I hadn't suspected, but it is not surprising. The goal of wanting to get around ideology is indeed a fool's errand, both here and in the White House. (The fact that they choose to call this "libertarian paternalism" but don't see what a huge turn off the latter term is to conservatives despite a conscious effort to convince them to support this project is more evidence of this problem.)

One more point. Even on its own terms, Nudge is off base in some important instances.  Perhaps most important is its discussion of medical malpractice, which suffers from a number of conservative assumptions. Tom Baker (author of the excellent Medical Malpractice Myth) and Timothy Lytton provide a great critique here.

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Oh, My Problem Isn't With The Concept--It's With The Fetishization (4.00 / 3)
The paper confirms that the concept is effective--even if counterproductive with a certain sub-population--and there never was any doubt about that in my mind.  But it's a tool, just like many others, and like all tools it has both strengths and weaknesses, as well as limitations.

If someone showed up saying that screwdrivers will save the world, because they can be used to do anything, I wouldn't devote a lot of attention to the fact that yes, in fact, screwdrivers are really great for screwing in screws.  I'd be much too worried about them being used to perform eye surgery, and would devote my attention to trying to prevent that instead.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Progressive activism at its finest (0.00 / 0)
Sunstein's premises are as relevant as a study on the difference of how men behave in public toilets, before and after they've been enlisted into military service. To study such narrow sliver of the spectrum is meaningless because it deal with ephemeral parameters, a thin slice of life, that will vary a thousand times before it will ever repeat.

I also don't see why this is even a meaningful topic for this forum, or as related to the differences between one group of progressives and other progressives or liberal or conservative groups. Why grant Sunstein any validity at all by discussing him? (Seems there are several posts cross-referencing each other...or maybe this post ties in better with another one: "The Progressive ideological divide" http://www.openleft.com/diary/...

Assuming Open Left is a "movement" generating group, I can only say there there's one single difference between the sides: There is one invisible side who do nothing more than discuss the other two, three, or five sides, who are the progressives in office. Obama has been included in one of these, as a sort of centrist with some right tendencies, to accomplish some progressive goals. A little more to the right or left of that, are the other shades of progressives: the new democrats, the progressive democrats, the blue dogs, the not so blue ones, and whatever other shade of label you would be used to pretend popular support. These are now now and forever the ones in control; the two parties redefined in infinite shades of gray. To say there are important differences between them, is ludicrous: Here is the difference: some progressive leaning legislator, would boast that difference by saying, "Twenty lashes is cruel and unusual punishment. I only approve of 5 lashes." "Charging the public 30% interest on loans, is uncivilized. We'd better keep it below 29%, which is far more reasonable."

The real, visible, and measurable division is whether their actions benefit the public or not, and not is microscopic shades of gray, but significantly; in the vicinity of 100% beneficial to the public, or in at least the proportion of public sentiment. Our present progressives are happy to get a law that harms the public to a degree less than 50%, even if it benefits it none.

Why would we accept anything less than complete protection of human rights, and oppose completely any oppression, or any legislation where the public gain from the legislation is vague and dubious at best, which will tilt the application in the courts loopholes in the law, towards the plutocratic elite, banking, and super-rich. Are we to choose only between who or what will hurt us the least?

To write academic treatises on how shades of difference between the oligarchs makes one dictator better than another is a waste of time, and a loss of sight for real human progress; these papers are just rationalizations of why it's acceptable to embrace injustices. Where's our Rosa Parks in congress? Where is the raucous raised by the progressive caucus to have the law written for the public interest? I see lots of groveling in some of these postings that boast, "We've managed to get them to disrespect us and trample us a little less than they have been doing for the last ten years! What a win-win!  

As Mark Twain once said, "Sorry I didn't have the time to make this letter shorter!."

A National Progressive Alliance, is the only viable solution.

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