It's not Obama's character, it's neo-liberalism's

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Sep 30, 2010 at 10:30


Peter Daou has a followup diary, "Liberal bloggers are bringing down Obama, part II: It's NOT the economy, stupid, it's Obama's character", and there's some I agree with, some I don't, but I want to focus like a laser on one particular part that I agree with, in order to take the argument further in the direction I think it needs to go--that it's not just about Obama's character, it's about the character of neo-liberalism, which Obama embodies to a remarkable extent.

Here's Daou:

Long before the American public rendered judgment on Obama's economic policies, a core group of progressive bloggers and activists were expressing alarm at everything from gay rights to Gitmo to torture, women's reproductive freedom to Afghanistan. They were essentially saying that Obama was betraying his implied and explicit promise to be the anti-Bush.

There's a lot of denial revisionism about this now, but at the time, the fact that Obama gave a speech against the war while other top Dems had voted for the AUMF was utterly decisive for giving Obama a huge leg up on everyone else: the anti-Bush. Continuing:

As far back as May, 2009, I wrote:
    Over the past four months there have been a series of flare-ups between the Obama administration and the progressive activist community, centered mainly around the new administration's willingness (or lack thereof) to reverse Bush-Cheney's radical excesses in the realm of civil liberties, secrecy, detainee treatment, interrogation, and counter-terrorism.

    Ever astute and incisive, Digby raises what I think is the critical point in this entire debate: "The argument against torture is slipping away from us. In fact, I'm getting the sinking feeling that it's over. What was once taboo is now publicly acknowledged as completely acceptable by many people. Indeed, disapproval of torture is now being characterized as a strictly partisan issue, like welfare reform or taxes."

Indeed, this was the whole point of holding people accountable for torture and other war crimes:  It wasn't to be mean & evil partisans, as Obama seemed to think.  It was to preserve our own humanity and save our country from the descent into barbarism, where torture is just another option--and who doesn't love options? Continuing:

Paul Rosenberg :: It's not Obama's character, it's neo-liberalism's

    Ari Melber, my former Kerry campaign colleague, takes a parallel tack, arguing that there should be no debate here; torture is illegal. Even Bush acknowledged that. Glenn Greenwald, an indispensible voice on this topic, says bluntly: "Ever since he was inaugurated, Obama has taken one extreme step after the next to keep concealed both the details and the evidence of Bush's crimes, including rendition, torture and warrantless eavesdropping."

    As has been the case for years, Democratic leaders, operating within the Washington bubble, misconstrue the concerns of the netroots and often privately dismiss them as the rantings of immature outsiders and political neophytes. But as always, the progressive community, a far more efficient thinking machine than a handful of strategists and advisers, is looking ahead and raising a unified alarm. The message is this: anything less than absolute moral clarity from Democrats, who now control the levers of power, will enshrine Bush's abuses and undermine the rule of law for generations to come.

Of course the apparatchiks would be the last to know.  They're always the last to know. Continuing:

    Setting aside all the campaign slogans about hope and change, what Obama really signifies is a razor sharp break from Bush, Cheney, Yoo, Rice, Rumsfeld, Addington, Libby, Bybee et al. After eight years of damage to the fabric of our Constitution and our nation, the entire point of a new face, a smart, youthful, inspiring Democratic president is to completely and totally reject the Bush years, to reject the lawless behavior, the Orwellian rationales, the blatant disregard of the Constitution. Neglecting to do so, and leaving any doubt about where Democrats stand on these issues, is profoundly detrimental to the country.
This was about Obama's character, not just his policies, about moral courage and conviction - and the lack of it. The right, led by radio blatherers and the still potent rightwing attack machine, had their sights on Obama's character from the very beginning. They were bent on destroying him. It's when the left began conveying doubts about his moral authority that the warnings signs should have started flashing in the West Wing.

The health care debate, with the left's profound disappointment over the public option and the right's overwhelming antipathy to a "government takeover" permanently defined and enshrined the previously inchoate impressions of Obama as a man whose obsession with conciliation rendered him incapable of taking an unshakable stand in defense of his principles.

The nub of the insight, in short, comes from May 2009.  It's not the least bit new at all.  And the health care debate is not where it started.  It's just where it got played out on the big screen for all to see.  But it was all there in embryonic form in his embrace of Bush's torture logic.  And even that didn't start back then.  It started with his FISA flip-flop.  As soon as he switched sides and said, in effect, "It's cool for corporate America to violate the Constitution in cahoots with the President," Obama had gone over to the dark side.  If that was cool, when what could possibly be wrong?  Answer: Nothing.  Only getting caught.

Such complete immoralism made Obama a true son of Nixon.

But Obama was not alone.  

Indeed, his actions--and the reasoning behind them--are perfectly consistent with the over-arching trajectory of neo-liberal thought.  The only thing that really set Obama apart was his ability to appear not to be one of the same old neo-liberal crowd.

What is the "over-arching trajectory of neo-liberal thought" I speak of?  Simple: Nixon said, "Boo!" and the neo-liberals jumped.  The first to jump were not called "neo-liberals", of course.  But what came to characterize those who came to be called neo-liberals was one thing above all: a visceral disdain for those they considered the weak-kneed targets of Nixon's wrath, including, of course, their own sorry selves waking up drenched in cold sweat in the middle of the night.

Daou himself put it more prosaically:

Obama and Democrats have undermined their own moral authority by continuing some of Bush's' most egregious policies ... Everything flows from the public's belief that you stand for something. The most impressive legislative wins lose their force if people become convinced you'll sell out your own values.

It would be unfair and silly to portray all Democrat politicians as devoid of moral convictions, but it's not inaccurate to state that there is a widespread phobia among Democrats of appearing "weak," which paradoxically leads to behavior that further reinforces that impression. When you fret too much over what others think, you tend to contort yourself in an attempt to please, often at the expense of your core beliefs. When the specific complaint is that you're weak, there is a tendency is to do whatever your critics characterize as strong - and in the case of Democrats, they tend to ignore the strength of their own values and emulate Republicans, ending up looking even weaker in the process. From gay rights to executive power to war to the environment, the left increasingly believes the Obama White House lacks the moral courage to undo Bush's radicalism.

Of course, we all know that. "We" being the DFH blogosphere that can see right through all this.  But there's one part that maybe all of us don't see through, and that's the psychodynamic side that I sketched out above.  Because, you see, the neo-liberals are very much animated by their own fears that they are the DFHs they love to beat up on so much.  Indeed, one might almost say that there's something close to an exact parallel between self-hating closeted gay conservatives lashing out compulsively at open, proud, self-confident gays who don't see anything to be ashamed of in who they are, and neo-liberals as self-hating cultural/affective liberals lashing out at open, proud, self-confident liberals who don't see anything to be ashamed of in who they are.

Is that all there is to it?  No, of course not.  There's a vast, multi-factor policy dimension as well, and you can't fully understand what's been going on all these years by dealing with psychodymanics in a vacuum. But if you steadfastly ignore the psychodynamic dimension, there is no way in God's green earth that you'll understand the first thing about neo-liberalism, and why the Democrats are so profoundly screwed up.

Their problems are not rational, and not even just cravenly self-interested, although craven self-interest is certainly part of the mix. But it's not the glue that holds the center together.  The glue is neo-liberal wound identity--a political identity based on a damaged core, ala the Fisher King, just as conservatism is likewise held together by its own special wound identity.


Tags: , , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email
Changing the subject to personal character not by accident (4.00 / 9)
It avoids discussions about political and ideological character. The "personal" at the expense of systemic issues is at the heart of conservative thought in America. For example, we can ignore system fraud with the mortgage crisis if we can find a subset of homeowners who individually engaged in fraud.  It goes hand, and hand with "individualism" as they define it. The system is focused on avoiding anything that holds the system accountable. By focusing President Obama, this plays into their hands. Indeed, discussing this in terms of "The Democrats" plays into their hands. The truth is both are just symptoms of the deeper problem.  

True (4.00 / 3)
The problems are systemic, and ultimately trace back to structures like patriarchy, older and deeper than capitalism itself.  

But the problems also get implicated in, implanted in, imprinted on the individual psyche as levels so deep we don't normally even begin to know where to start unravelling things.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Habitus (0.00 / 0)
I think you could use Pierre Bourdieu's concept of 'habitus'--the social conditioning of the individual, though culture, to the point where that conditioning is actually invisible them--to explain why, in many cases, it is almost impossible to intercede with an individual's perception of reality.

The framework of their thinking is a social construct, that has a much more powerful effect on their world view then they can ever hope to grasp. It literally defines reality and how they play the game. In this sense, Obama is preconditioned by the 'habitus' of neoliberal thinking (I am using this analogy loosely) to see the world as he does. It leads him to conclude that liberals are naïve fools for pushing an agenda contrary to reality. Yes it is his reality, but it is a reality not of his making.


[ Parent ]
That's The Personal Experience Of Hegemony (0.00 / 0)
What Bourdieu is talking about is the cumulative effect of all the hegemonic institutions which Gramsci describes as working together like the different units of an army.  They are all the more effective because their primary purposes aren't overtly political in the sense we normally think of as "political".  They are there to do certain things--fulfill basic social functions--and they just naturally justify themselves, of course. The fact that they cumulatively justify the status quo as a whole flows out of their social functioning, but is not generally a conscious purpose, hence very hard to get a fix on. They're simply, invisibly, shaping what we take to be "common sense."

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
True, but... (4.00 / 3)
I do fully agree about the potentially diversionary implications of a personality focus. Too infrequently considered here and elsewhere. "Change of course" and a "few rotten apples" are classic system-protecting maneuvers.

That said, by the time you say "The Democrats" are too narrow a handle for analysis, I think you take this valid point to excess.

I think it is also possible to take your point too far such that we neglect the choices that individual agents make even within the context of systemic or structural constraints. "Men make their own history, but they do not make it just as they please," is surely true, as Giddens observes, but this still leaves a lot of room  to explore why folks make the choices they do. It still leaves a lot of room to understand the interaction of structure and agency.

Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts? Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze? And cold comfort for change?


[ Parent ]
I advocating an analytic approach that says (0.00 / 0)
argue from the systemic, and then point to things as individual examples. For example, you can discuss the Democrats, but I would assume that there is not much difference between the Democratic Neo-liberal who claims he or she has no choice versus the Republican one who says its what they want. The result in the same. The only relevant portion is how they go about producing the same result. Thus, the thrust of the conversation is not denying a discussion about Democrats, but instead is to not make it about the Democrats. They aren't any different than the GOP despite all the cries against such assertions.

[ Parent ]
Not Exactly (0.00 / 0)
There are very real differences.  It's just that, recalling the classic definition of a "bit", when push really comes down to shove (a vote in the Senate, say), they aren't a difference that makes a difference.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
Voters are primarily concerned with policies that make a difference (4.00 / 3)
rather than the Kabuki Theatre of DC politics. If those real differences do not define policy, the differences do not matter.

[ Parent ]
No functional difference between GOPpers and Neo-Libs (0.00 / 0)
other than to the extent that part of Neo-Liberalism is to be "efficient", so they might attain Neo-Conservative goals more quickly.

I mean really, if

There are very real differences.

yet,

they aren't a difference that makes a difference.

I have to question your definition of "very real". Its a bit like Dark Matter at this point; all the theories and equations confirm that it is "real", but we just can't seem to find any of it out in the "real" world.



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
The Differences Are Primarily Cultural (4.00 / 1)
But they are also economic.  However, they don't go very deep, so when the going gets tough, the differences get going.

See, the thing is that for a very long time, folks have been able to put things off.  And this has allowed them to pretend that there are still very deep differences that are now really no more than a matter of faded sentiment.

That's how I see it.  And it's a direct result of taking other people's interiority rather seriously, even if I do think it's deeply self-deluded, or at best sorely lacking in real-world testing.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Changing culture is more complex than changing votes (0.00 / 0)
from There to Here. Sometimes I wonder whether politics is the solution or the decoy.

Maybe the "left" should be trying to gain control of corporations, and forget about nations altogether.

That would have been one of the benefits of letting the big banks fail, IMHO, other groups could have taken control of the money flow and, perhaps, made different decisions based on different idealogies. Or maybe there is some inherent trait in corporations that tilts them toward the nefarious - especially in a capitalist system.

If corporations like BP want to be considered citizens, then they should stand for their crimes, too. Maybe we need the equivalent of prisons, but for whole corporations. How would that work? Probably best as a Far Side comic.

Is there such a thing as a progressive corporation? Any examples?  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
corporate law makes taking over a corporation meaningless (0.00 / 0)
The same result would accrue because of the way the law proscribes the ability of investors and shareholders to force companies to be social justice oriented.  

[ Parent ]
corporate law makes taking over a corporation meaningless (0.00 / 0)
The same result would accrue because of the way the law proscribes the ability of investors and shareholders to force companies to be social justice oriented.  

[ Parent ]
This is only vaguely on point (4.00 / 6)
but I couldn't resist....Now on the rec list at Daily Kos, Nashville fan on Obama's escalation in Afghanistan:

as promised, and has renewed the focus on Afghanistan. He had the AUDACITY to HOLD MEETINGS and make a PLAN to proceed, he had the COURAGE to increase our TROOP levels, knowing that with increased combat would come increased casualties, but proceeded with what was best for our nation's national security instead of what was best for made-for-TV soundbites..

And neo-progressives wonder why we despair about the state of our party.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...


[ Parent ]
It's Like A Bad Devo Song (4.00 / 2)
Except, of course, there are no bad Devo songs.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
Two hands needed now (0.00 / 0)
Well, it happened. The number of time I disagree with you now requires two hands to count.

Sorry about my unintentional ditto comment above. Yours wasn't yet visible to me, probably because it took me some time to write out my comment and I was focused on the post a comment window.

Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts? Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze? And cold comfort for change?


[ Parent ]
I read that quote and heard Lee Greenwood. (0.00 / 0)
But the nausea has passed now...

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller

[ Parent ]
Vaguely on Point (0.00 / 0)
was one of the many names used for the poetry band I was pleased to work with in the late 1990s. Big Pink Tongue, Scarlet Fever, and Passive Restraint were some of my favorites. Fun times.  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
You take what's posted at Daily Kos too seriously (0.00 / 0)
Its just a Fox-like echo chamber meant to create a spin cycle. Once you accept that, it saves a lot of time.

[ Parent ]
I don't think taking it seriously is his point. (4.00 / 3)
The point is about half (maybe more) of the commenters over there actually "think" that way. Yet a lot of these people claim to be progressive somehow.

No big woop. It's just Obama's Cult of Personality Echo Chamber.

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller


[ Parent ]
But bad spin has consequences, too. (0.00 / 0)
Such bad spin undermines progressive values. And the orange satan is big, and its role as an opinion multiplicator shouldn't be underestimated. Imho this is disturbing.

[ Parent ]
I don't offer this as gospel, but.... (4.00 / 11)
I used to see this a lot from the brown-shirt types who came as counter-demonstrators to anti-war rallies. The almost visceral hatred they displayed toward us seemed so out of proportion to our provocation that it actually puzzled me. Of course there was the mob thing -- what they felt as individuals was amplified by the crowd -- but that didn't seem enough to get them so worked up at a bunch of people who weren't in fact any kind of threat to them.

It took me a while to figure out, but eventually I came to the conclusion that it wasn't what we were saying that set them off so much as the fact that we dared say it at all. What enrages a bully is the idea that someone can exist who doesn't fear what he fears, and is in fact in the process of creating an authority to rival the one he cowers before every day. You are dissing Daddy. If I let you do that, he'll punish ME.

It's pitiful, really, and not a damned thing we can do about it, except defeat Daddy. Then the bully will come along quite nicely every time.


Unequal treatment (4.00 / 5)
First Reagan and then both Bushes were covered up from their crimes.  Republicans are still seeking revenge from Nixon.  It won't end for a long time.

Obama is setting himself up for the predictable (and predicted) Republican impeachment.  High crimes and misdemeanors?  Well, he's open for murder if a single individual is killed on his say-so.  That's about as high a crime as it gets.  Allowing the US President to operate like a Mafia chieftain a la the Godfather movies alone ought to be impeachable.

The Republicans will smugly dig up real dirt unlike the Clinton/Starr stuff.  Unlike the Clinton assaults it won't be countered by a good economy.

In one sense this conduct is amoral.  The rich people, the corporates, the highest levels of government are simply not held to most every day standards.  This strikes me as more than amoral.  The top tier actually revel in this.

Jimmy Carter may have been a bad President or at least an unfortunate one but there was no doubt that Carter was a good person.  That, and a Democratic congress, meant that he was punishable as the framers intended at the next election but not through the impeachment process.  Every President from Reagan on has been vulnerable to some extent or other to impeachment with Clinton perhaps the least guilty.  Whether it was Iran Contra, the falsification of WMD information, Abu Gharib, assasination on demand, torture, political house raids and arrests of American citizens or other scandals the conduct has mostly been deplorable.

The sexual gotchas have covered up a real and serious decline in community, real morality, and the loss of government by law instead of by the sordid and bought opinions of the corporate hired guns on the Supreme Court.  You really hit the nail on the head this time.


Revenge for Nixon? They're still seeking revenge for HOOVER. (4.00 / 3)
But the GOP won't impeach Obama on any legitimate basis, like covering up torture or starting his own drone assassination program. They don't want to set any precedent that future GOP presidents might be brought to justice for their crimes.

The impeachment charges will be even more laughable than they were with Clinton: strictly on the grounds of Sekrit Muslimhood, Terrurism, or Lack of True Birth Sertificate. Something even crazier and more trivial than lying about a blowjob.

The purposes of a GOP impeachment are:

  • to distract the Democrats from the business of governing;
  • to rally their own base and get media attention;
  • to delegitimize impeachment as a means of punishing high crimes and misdemeanors and turn it into just another partisan political weapon;
  • to delegitimize the federal government itself and destroy public faith in the American system and thereby in democracy.

They don't have to have charges of substance to accomplish any of that. A pure circus impeachment will do.


[ Parent ]
I don't know what they'd impeach for. (4.00 / 1)
Seems to me they'd have to find some illegality of some sort and since Obama is playing by the GOP playbook, that's going to be a really tough sell. There won't be any blue dress to help them out this time.

"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller

[ Parent ]
Just Google (4.00 / 3)
I won't link to the site, but type "impea" and you'll get "impeach obama" and find plenty of stuff like this:

1.       Voter irregularities around the country, during the 2008 Presidential Election, involving ACORN and illegal voter registration.

2.       The questionable funding and television sponsorship of Obama which unfairly presented the facts between each candidate.

3.       Barack Hussein Obama II actual birth place.

4.       His application and subsequent acceptance of a fellowship scholarship as a Foreign Citizen

5.       His recent comments claiming America is no longer a Christian Nation

6.       His comments claiming America is a Great Muslim Nation.

7.       His seeking to take over and control the banking institution

8.       His take over actions of America's auto industry

9.       Grave concerns of releasing Classified Military Documentation

10.   The impending closure of GUTMO

11.   His continued apologies to foreign countries about America being a strong Nation.

In other words, they don't actually need a reason.


[ Parent ]
Besides (0.00 / 0)
Wasn't he secretely born cross-eyed?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
Illegality is not necessary (0.00 / 0)
nor is it sufficient.  While a number of Democratic Party legal scholars tried to convince us of that to protect Clinton and to chill out progressives over going after W., they were wrong.  'High crimes and misdemeanors' means abuse of the public trust.  Not all crimes are an abuse of the public trust (person criminality unconnected to one's office, for example) and not all abuses are crimes (lying to the public to get a war, for example).

Also, the judge of whether something counts is left up to Congress. The only appeal is to the American people through elections.

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.


[ Parent ]
Lying The Public To War IS A Crime (0.00 / 0)
Former federal prosecutor Elizabeth de la Vega:

The President's deceit is not only an abuse of power; it is a federal crime. Specifically, it is a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371, which prohibits conspiracies to defraud the United States.

She wrote a whole damn book about it.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
A bad example (0.00 / 0)
(and I did know that - a momentary lapse). But the point stands - illegality is irrelevant to high crimes and misdemeanors.  

Politics is the art of the possible, but that means you have to think about changing what is possible, not that you have to accept it in perpetuity.

[ Parent ]
Won't impeaching Obama be a good thing? (0.00 / 0)
It'll take time and energy away from actually passing conservative legislation, which Obama may be willing to sign.

[ Parent ]
This is an excellent post, Paul (4.00 / 7)
it's not just about Obama's character, it's about the character of neo-liberalism, which Obama embodies to a remarkable extent.

The way I see neo-liberalism, its goal is to protect the corporate-imperial state by making it kinder and gentler, softer, slightly less Darwinian, both so that's its palatable to "liberals" and so that it doesn't become so severe that it triggers widespread popular resistance. In a sense, it protects the corporate-imperial state from both the right, which would destroy it by making it too extreme, and the left, which would destroy it by enacting popular policies. Yeah, damn right, he embodies the character of neo-liberalism.

A related point you touch on:

His actions--and the reasoning behind them--are perfectly consistent with the over-arching trajectory of neo-liberal thought.  The only thing that really set Obama apart was his ability to appear not to be one of the same old neo-liberal crowd.

His marketing effort in this regard fascinates and appalls me. It's hard to believe now but way back in 2007, we--progressives--had arrived at a consensus on core points of belief, especially on economics. The battle lines were clearly drawn, with neo-liberals on one side and liberals on the other. Obama came along and blew that consensus to hell and now a big chunk of former liberals now defend or support policies that we all used to agree are wrong. I can't forgive him for this.

How'd he do it? By bullshitting, in part. By attacking "triangulation." By pretending he opposed NAFTA. By pretending he was to Clinton's left. By employing populist-sounding rhetoric. By convincing Labor not to throw its full weight behind Edwards. By having a remarkable ability to allow people to see in him what they wanted to see. He also benefited, as you say, from his opposition to the war in Iraq (which likely wouldn't have existed had he already be in the Senate at the time of the AUMF) and also his race.

But there's another important aspect (which I think Naomi Klein will discuss in her next book: I read the intro somewhere): his Coke-Apple-Volkswagon-like appropriation of the cultural language and images of freedom and revolt in the service of a corporate-serving agenda. (See: Thomas Franks's The Conquest of Cool.)

Not too long ago I was having dinner with a very intelligent liberal friend. He told me that the moment he knew he supported Obama was when he said his favorite Wire character was Omar. Telling on so many levels.



Yup! (4.00 / 3)
I wrote about Klein's discussion of Obama's lifeftyle politics when she first wrote about it.  While he's taken it to such an extreme point, something that struck me is just how long it's actually been around.

It wasn't invented by admen, btw.  My sister first spotted it around 1970, when she noticed students carrying books that they never read.  She described the books as "jewelry".  As I recall, most popular was Herman Hesse, particularly Steppenwolf.  Instant depth.  Who could ask for anything more?

Along the same lines, see Obama's comments about Dylan playing at the White House.  His comments are pitch-perfect: he digs Dylan's stand-offish stance.

WTF was Dylan thinking, I wonder?  He was singing "The Times They Are A-Changin'", but was he, perhaps thinking, "There must be some way out of here..."???

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Hehehe, adoring art for all the wrong reasons! (0.00 / 0)
Good one, Paul. This reminds me of the last prargraph of a Tom Petty song called "All the wrong reasons". Dunno who the guy is he's talking about, but somehow it seems to have some relevance for your point:

Where the sky begins the horizon ends
Despite the best intentions
And a big old man goes up for sale
He becomes his own invention

Oh, oh, the days go slow, into the changing season
Oh, oh, bought and sold for all the wrong reasons


http://www.metrolyrics.com/all...

[ Parent ]
"Coke-Apple-Volkswagon-like appropriation of the cultural language" (0.00 / 0)
Uh, I know this is a total side issue in your comment, but could yu pls explain a bit more verbosely? You sure understand I'm interested in this, being a big Coke fan and so...

Apropos, it's "Volkswagen", even though your spelling sure sounds more familiar to the American ear..


[ Parent ]
I too noticed when Obama said he loved Omar. (0.00 / 0)
Of course Omar meets a bad end, but maybe Obama didn't watch all of season 5.

He's a lot more like Carcetti, the ambitious, well-intentioned young councilman who runs for mayor thinking he's going to change the city for the better. Then he discovers the city is broke and he can't do much to fix things without angering powerful political constituencies. He ends up running for governor on his very thin record, and winning, without having done much of anything for Baltimore. Moving on up to the next rung on the career ladder, just like Obama did...

Of course now Obama's made it to the top. There's no higher office left to go to. He's trapped.

back in 2007, we--progressives--had arrived at a consensus on core points of belief, especially on economics.

I don't think such a consensus existed. If it was as deep and strongly felt as you feel it was, mere personality politics would not have been sufficient to break it up.

I think it was much simpler: people hated Bush, wanted a change, and Obama was the "changiest". They weren't terribly clear on the nature of the change they wanted.

My view is that Obama has exposed the lack of any consensus, the lack of clarity on the kind of change they supposedly wanted. He didn't create any divisions that weren't already there, instead he simply exploited fault lines that already existed but were invisible because everyone was united in despising Bush.

It turned out that some people just hated Bush because of his style and tone, and were OK with a lot of his policies. But it took Obama carrying on many of those policies to bring this to light.

Of course with unemployment steadily rising people will get clear in a hurry. But still it takes time.


[ Parent ]
Hmm, so the neo-liberal defines himself as the anti-DFH? (4.00 / 1)
Makes some sense. This explains the lack of clear cut values, and the foggy appearance of their political stances. The values and goals of the hippies are rather clear cut, but the set of neo-liberalism (everything outside the small circle of progressive values) is a big blob. No surprise, then, that those jerks look to us like unscrupulous cynics who would sell their own grandmother, if necessary. Since selling grammy isn't part of the progressive value set, it's perfectly acceptable, even desirable for neo-libs!

They Would NEVER Sell Their Own Grandmother! (4.00 / 4)
They would securitize her.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
Damn, right! I wasn't up-to-date. (4.00 / 1)
Of course, that's the 21st century way of doing this! Cut her into slices, and then create bonds based on the ownership of the packages. The most risky parts get the highest interest rates!

[ Parent ]
Answer: All of the above. (4.00 / 3)
Methinks Daou should have stopped with Part I, as Part II is pretty muddled. For a person who normally takes a pretty nuanced view of The Political Ecosystem, it just doesn't make sense to make the "character, not policies" argument. Fact is, it's both. It's economics. It's foreign policy. It's torture. It's the police state. It's habeus corpus. It's corruption.

This is what amounts to a Full-Spectrum FAIL. One would be hard pressed to find any person who doesn't have problems with at least three of these issues or the others I didn't get to. They never could get the Right and now they're losing the Left and the mushy middle. The center cannot hold under such circumstances.

Perhaps the administration is just incompetent--there's certainly a strong case for that. Perhaps though, they are simply trying to finish off the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party with this blame-gaming and insults that almost seem designed to depress turnout.

Chances are they also know quite well it won't be the activists who fail to vote or GOTV. It will be those who voted last time, some for the first time ever or in a very long time, who won't "suck it up" to please our corporate overlords. I'm sure their own polling is more than adequate in this regard.

Perhaps they think that with a GOP majority in one or both houses, they can then sell themselves as the only bulwark against the GOP in 2012. That would certainly fit in with what passes for "thought" within their gilded cage. Destroy "teh left" and then capitalize on that to save their own asses in two years.

But the polling trends, thanks to the idiots on the Right and the mediots, are not working in that direction. If the Dems stay in majority this year, then Obama is in deep doo doo in 2012, because by then he will only be seen as a bulwark against his own party.


"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." -- Buckminster Fuller


Daou has always been Hillary supporter and (0.00 / 0)
since she is a neoliberal too, he has to expend a lot of wasted energy to advocate for her.





USER MENU


blog advertising is good for you
blog advertising is good for you

Donate to Open Left

QUICK HITS
SEARCH

   

Advanced Search

STATE BLOGS